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paperjack
#1 Posted : 10/11/2015 10:42:08 AM

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PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind)Set: relaxed
Setting (location):My house, on my favourite chair, with two friends by my side.
time of day: 17.00
recent drug use: paracetamol
last meal: carrot soup at 13-14

PARTICIPANT
Gender: male
body weight: 76
known sensitivities: n/a
history of use: First time ayahuasca, smoalked a few times before

BIOASSAY

Substance(s): rue, mhrb
Dose(s): 4g, 4g
Method of administration: tea, one 30m after the other


EFFECTS

Administration time: T=1700
Duration: 6-7 hours
First effects: 30-40 min in
Peak: No idea, lost concept of time during peak
Come down: After around 23
Baseline: 2-3 AM

Intensity (overall): 2/4 (use HRS-like scale i.e. 0-4: 0 = "Not at all;" 1 = "Slightly;" 2 = "Moderately;" 3 = "Quite a bit;" 4 = "Extremely."Pleased
Evaluation / notes: No breakthrough and no entity contact, but I lost concept of time, space and sequence.

OPTIONAL
Pleasantness: 3/4
Unplesantness: 2/4 I did not purge and therefore my stomach felt heavy during the whole thing
Visual Intensity: 2/4
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AFTER-EFFECTS

Hangover: 1/4
Afterglow: 2/4 I'm not really feeling any afterglow other than the MAOI's effects.


REPORT


First time ayahuasca, it was fun, but not what I expected Smile
We drank at 1700, and after 15 min one of my friends immediately purged and didn't get any effects at all. My other friend purged 1-2 hours in and experienced weaker effects than me.
I, on the other hand, didn't purge at all and became really really inadequate. My body and tongue became really slurry and I lost coordination. I felt like I was really drunk.
Additionally, I lost concept of time, space and consequence. Drinking a glass of water while on the peak was definitely a highlight, the water looked so beautiful but I had a load of problems drinking it, coordinating myself when to gulp and when to stop Very happy Finding it was a massive task too.
I tried to communicate a bit with the chat, but the keyboard proved a massive obstacle. After a few hours I baselined and I managed to write a bit.
Looked at myself in the mirror, somehow. A very interesting rush.
I didn't have any real OEV, it felt more that my immagination was MUCH more vivid and every scene "reminded" me of something.
Over the whole trip, there was a very strong feeling of PERSPECTIVE. It was much easier to empathize and put myself in others' shoes and understand them. It may stem from the vivid imagination thing. It was really fun, overall.

Next time... we must go deeper Smile

 

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Jees
#2 Posted : 10/11/2015 1:56:54 PM

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I think not exceeding 4 gr mhrb is a wise first encounter decision.
How deep that goes is very dependent on how much the mao was inhibited.
While 4 gr rue sure sounds promising for that, it still depend on how much of it's actives ended into your system, and this comes down largely to the making of the tea, and avoiding rapid vomiting after the drink.
4 gr mimo can take one deeper in solo meditative settings, influences are very determining the depth. It will never be like vaping though, it's another game altogether.
It showed as you had a good time, yes the plant tea's burden the system Big grin but they're healthy.

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travsha
#3 Posted : 10/11/2015 6:07:33 PM

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If you are trying to get more personal insights or things like that, I have one recommendation.... Avoid the keyboard and chat for a few hours. I often find that the more you do, the more you just distract yourself and the less you get from the experience. When it comes to activities, less is more - so you can go way deeper on the same dose if you meet the plants half way and focus on them and yourself instead of chatting or keyboards.

Of course, you can do whatever you want and I am not trying to tell you what to do. I am only giving an idea in case you want to have a deeper experience.
 
pitubo
#4 Posted : 10/11/2015 11:55:41 PM

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paperjack wrote:
Substance(s): rue, mhrb
Dose(s): 4g, 4g
Method of administration: tea, one 30m after the other

Thanks for the report!

A question: why did you wait 30 minutes? In my experience, tea works much better if you combine the harmala and dmt tea at once. The wait only makes sense when eating raw rue seeds, because these take some time to digest. Eating raw seeds is suboptimal anyway, you made a right choice to make a tea, but why the wait? Next time, try combining the two components, just like it is done with traditional ayahuasca.
 
 
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