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starway6
#1 Posted : 9/10/2015 3:14:15 AM

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Ive noticed that On fairly low doses of acacia with cappi or rue smoked.. that my open eye visuals with proper lighting and ..[a certain kind of focus with my eyes].. everything in the room that has color or reflects light will overtake my normal vision and objects in room become dominant moving towards me and everthing around these objects goes black like im in deep outer space...!

I mean that this is very cool visuals as they become 3D and the dominant objects begin to become diferent colors and some even neon!.. and they start to float past me as if im floating in deep space..!

Is this a breakthrough at some level?

I mean if i stare at an object long enough with eyes open my whole field of vision changes and im in outer space floating past astral bodys one after the other!

My room becomes like deep space as very colorfull glowing neon collerd objects float past me in zero gravity!

Object in the room like cabnets grow mouths and smile at me cups and spoons begin to dance on the counters that quickly become green fields!

Wow all this happens after a few hits rue with acacia .. just from staring at something with eyes open for a while and i sort of enter this new space in time!

In these experiances im not just seeing them i feel like im their!Thumbs up

Has anyone done it this way?
 

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#2 Posted : 9/13/2015 6:01:40 PM

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I personally have had a few experiences that seem similar. Generally, this happens when I take a smaller dose of spice and sometimes when I seem to be distracted by "ego game" or "ordinary reality".

I fell very little, if anything, at first but as I start to relax and "focus" I can see more and feel a lot. It takes over my whole field of vision and is quite powerful. I still am slightly connected to reality and have never considered this a true "breakthrough". That being said, I think these experiences can be extremely valuable and help one get in a proper headspace as well as get more comfortable with the substance so they may eventually try a higher dosage.
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starway6
#3 Posted : 9/13/2015 9:06:02 PM

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Leithen wrote:
I personally have had a few experiences that seem similar. Generally, this happens when I take a smaller dose of spice and sometimes when I seem to be distracted by "ego game" or "ordinary reality".

I fell very little, if anything, at first but as I start to relax and "focus" I can see more and feel a lot. It takes over my whole field of vision and is quite powerful. I still am slightly connected to reality and have never considered this a true "breakthrough". That being said, I think these experiences can be extremely valuable and help one get in a proper headspace as well as get more comfortable with the substance so they may eventually try a higher dosage.



Yes i agree although i want to say that when not on any substance [perfectly straight]..i can look at the walls in my bathroom and they will begin to move and ripple like a light dose of LSD..

Well i have done plenty of real LSD during the [Sands and Owsley era] and this is an easy trick for me to do..

Yes being on a marginal dose of vaped dmt and just looking in a mirror or at an object long enough changes my visual picture some..but ive found that with a small to medium dose of acacia with smoked cappi.. the same experiance changes ..[A Huge amount for me].. as the objects around me become multi neon colored and i find my self thrust forward into a darkened universe of zero gravity and objects in room become very colorful floating bodys floating past me as if i were in outer space or the inner space of my own [minds inner brain landscape]

This staring at objects after smoking ..[ with the help of dmt cappi mix]..for me alows me to change what my eyes see in the room.. to a totally diferent vision of what my mind normaly sees!

Kind of like seeing with ones minds eye...

Or finding it easier to ignore what your eyes normaly see in the room by purposly finding a diferent visual route within your minds visual field..

[example]..in waking world...i just observed something i thought fimilar?..after thinking about it a mind picture comes to focus..then i remember as the mental picture explanes...

It is very cool experiance similar to throwing ones self into a meditative visual trance...

This becomes more than just an image .. I becoming part of it..for at least a little while...i become part of it as if in a self imposed dream body or energy body..

All of this can be done on a small wimpy dose of dmt and cappi...

Sorry if im mixing a lot of lucid dream theory into the dmt experiance..but there is some conections with the normal dream state and dmt visuals i think...

 
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#4 Posted : 9/13/2015 9:39:55 PM

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Nice! Through experimenting with it on psychedelics I've learned to enter different states through staring as well, and it's somewhat accessible sober. Eye contact with another or in a mirror is the easiest way to trigger it for me, but it's more than just a visual thing.

A friend and I originally realized it in high school. We had tripped together several times and realized that on weed alone, eye contact would put us into a similar state.

You might find this study interesting.

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#5 Posted : 9/14/2015 1:16:17 AM

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β€œThe Other plays with us and approaches us through the imagination and then a critical juncture is reached. To go beyond this juncture requires abandonment of will, and of old and ingrained habits of thinking and seeing. At that moment the world turns lazily inside out and what was hidden is revealed: a magical modality, a different mental landscape than one has ever known, and the landscape becomes real.

This is the realm of the cosmic giggle. UFOs, elves, and the teeming pantheons of all religions are the denizens of this previously invisible landscape. One reaches through to the continents and oceans of the imagination, worlds able to sustain anyone who will but play, and then one lets the play deepen and deepen until it is a reality that few would even dare to entertain.”

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#6 Posted : 9/14/2015 1:34:32 AM
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universecannon wrote:
β€œThe Other plays with us and approaches us through the imagination and then a critical juncture is reached. To go beyond this juncture requires abandonment of will, and of old and ingrained habits of thinking and seeing. At that moment the world turns lazily inside out and what was hidden is revealed: a magical modality, a different mental landscape than one has ever known, and the landscape becomes real.

This is the realm of the cosmic giggle. UFOs, elves, and the teeming pantheons of all religions are the denizens of this previously invisible landscape. One reaches through to the continents and oceans of the imagination, worlds able to sustain anyone who will but play, and then one lets the play deepen and deepen until it is a reality that few would even dare to entertain.”

from True Hallucinations


Good stuff.

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starway6 wrote:
Ive noticed that On fairly low doses of acacia with cappi or rue smoked.. that my open eye visuals with proper lighting and ..[a certain kind of focus with my eyes].. everything in the room that has color or reflects light will overtake my normal vision and objects in room become dominant moving towards me and everthing around these objects goes black like im in deep outer space...!

I mean that this is very cool visuals as they become 3D and the dominant objects begin to become diferent colors and some even neon!.. and they start to float past me as if im floating in deep space..!

Is this a breakthrough at some level?

I mean if i stare at an object long enough with eyes open my whole field of vision changes and im in outer space floating past astral bodys one after the other!

My room becomes like deep space as very colorfull glowing neon collerd objects float past me in zero gravity!

Object in the room like cabnets grow mouths and smile at me cups and spoons begin to dance on the counters that quickly become green fields!

Wow all this happens after a few hits rue with acacia .. just from staring at something with eyes open for a while and i sort of enter this new space in time!

In these experiances im not just seeing them i feel like im their!Thumbs up

Has anyone done it this way?


Yes, definitely. I love playing around with lower dosages of changa. They are really nifty in the sense that you can have a little trip without blowing your head completely open. Very happy

Sometimes when I do this it is more of a body buzz than a visual buzz. Then other times, it surprises me and I am showered with lots of strange fractal imagery while still being pretty present in "normal" reality. In fact, before I had a full on, out of this world breakthrough, what you describe is what I would get almost every time. Not 100% the same of course, but you get my drift...

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#8 Posted : 9/18/2015 6:13:27 PM

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IMO be careful with this "focus" game

I once realised I could do exactly what you are describing (
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everything in the room that has color or reflects light will overtake my normal vision and objects in room become dominant moving towards me and everthing around these objects goes black like im in deep outer space...!
) at will while sober, but I abused it and it eventually got out of control for about two weeks (which seemed like a month or two for me). This was started by mushroom flashbacks though, so different story.

I do what you are describing on low doses often though Smile
 
 
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