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bongo264
#1 Posted : 8/8/2015 6:21:06 PM

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PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind)Set: Happy and Positive.
(physical condition) Set: Good if not a bit tired from the day.
Setting (location): At home in NYC.
time of day: Evening Clear night.
recent drug use: None outside of weed about a week ago.
last meal: Lunch about 8 hours earlier light rye bread with small dollop of egg salad.

PARTICIPANTS
Gender: M and F my wife and me.
body weight: Me: 90kg 189cm / Wife: 52kg 157cm
known sensitivities: None
history of use: Moderate been going off and on for about a year with DMT others MDMA many years not too frequent though. 2-CB First timers

BIOASSAY

Dose(s): ME: MDMA(125mg) + 2-CB (20mg) wife: MDMA(100mg) + 2-CB (15mg) Changa (unmeasured several bowls) note: the DMT used to make the changa was fuller spectrum than I usually pull. It had a deep butter yellow color and I also added the reddish oil residue from the acacia.
Method of administration: MDMA (oral) 2-CB (insufflated) Changa (smoked)


EFFECTS

Administration time: MDMA @ T=0.00, 2-CB @ T=2.00, Changa @ T=4.5
Duration: 7 hours
First effects: REALLY good at about T=1.0
Peak: MDMA: T=1.00 to T=2.0 2-CB T=2.5 to T=3.5 Changa T=4.5 till we quit smoking it Stop
Come down: T=6.5
Baseline: Probably around T=9.5
Intensity (overall): MDMA +3.5, 2-CB +3.5, Changa +4 T=4.5 till T=6.5
Evaluation / notes: Me: Could not have gone better a tiny bit of nausea at T=.5 (but things make me nauseous easily) for me but after WOW! Wife: Stomach of iron! Nothing but great by her report!

OTHER
Pleasantness: 4 for the whole trip! Really!
Unpleasantness: None at all!
Visual Intensity: MDMA as you know not really, 2-CB strange, colorful, confusing at times. Changa very intense very revealing if that makes sense.


AFTER-EFFECTS

Hangover: ME: Woke up of course a little drained at 9:00am fell asleep around 1:00. Wife didn't fall asleep as fast about 2:30am and kept nudging me awake for snoring (we just fell asleep foot to head on the couch together) She woke up a couple of hours ago we had got in bed at around 5:00am. both took some ibuprofen for very slight headache this morning.
Afterglow: Still feel really good just lounging eating a bowl of cereal while watching some Adventure Time (just the best cartoon in forever BTW!).


REPORT

MDMA very pure and came on fast. I took and immediately jumped in the shower while my wife setup the living room and put on music. It was a quick shower (7 min or so) and when I was drying off I could feel fist feelings. After I dress (PJ bottoms and old T-shirt) I went back into living room and my wife looks at me and says I feel this already.

Whoosh through 2 beautiful hours of MDMA rolling on couch together. Peak fades a bit then we snort 2-CB (First timers) at T=2.00 at T=2.20 quite a rush from this substance wow very psychedelic with really nice synergy with the MDMA lots of euphoria and confusing visuals at times but all very handleable about T=3.00 we take a walk (crisp and cool out it has been quite hot) to a close by park with an incredible view of Manhattan lots of smiling people walking around laughing it seemed like everything was charmed and such a positive vibe. Watched some Chinese people all dancing this wonderful dance together (Large Chinese population where we live). The old man even got my wife into the dance patently teaching her the steps. Just magical!! T=4.00 we get home elated and flop onto the couch and put on some chill trippy music and relax a talk for a bit.

Then I suggest the changa I had made a week before. Wife showed a little trepidation as she has always felt the experience uninviting (which I can understand) but in our current state why not. I load a bowl and take three large tokes and pass the pipe on. BAM into the other world not as deep as I have been but well in there. After a few minutes I sit up open my eyes and my wife is closely inspecting everything on the coffee table. I asked if she hit it and she just looked at me and smiled she handed me this cork coaster that was on the coffee table. She then says look close and tell me what you see. I obliged and to my amazement the whole thing was covered in these glyphs so I tell her and she just shakes her head yes then says now look at everything. It was on everything except us. She looked like a porcelain doll and her voice was very small and cute.

We kept this up for a couple of hours and then she remembered that we had some N02 in the closet from god knows when. Well this just took your head off! I would get good and baked on the changa not quite breakthrough and then hit a whippet and the world just, I don't know! Immediately after the whippet everything was like the game mine craft. Very blocky pixels and unformed colors the room looked like 80's digital animation again except us we were these smooth flawless creatures in this world not quite of it. As that would fade the glyphs came back with a vengeance. Literally everything was made of them (I hate to use this reference) it looked like the Matrix movie except not in that green monitor feel. They had a strange way of not letting you focus on them you would look closely at one and it would fade and just out of where your focus was they would appear like they hide from you. My wife tried to draw them but she was never satisfied with what she was drawing. Wife also mentioned after a big hit of DMT plus N02 as she came back to see the room more or less that these tiny little thief guys (her words) with pointy hats would be darting out of the room flipping her off and giggling for those first few seconds.

We both came to sort of a conclusion that this world you see in these states is what holds this world together. Sort of the framework that "reality" is hung upon. This just felt right for the rest of the day I am going to try to draw the glyphs it was truly the best DMT experience I have ever had. Less confusing and launching into an other world and then being kicked out like a pure DMT hit. This seemed to show the worlds are is the same space. We are going to try this combo again in a couple of months as it was just too good not to repeat.
 

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concombres
#2 Posted : 8/8/2015 6:27:58 PM

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I would advise you not to combine harmalas & stimulants. Though they are not true MAOI`s they can d effinately have negative interactions still & it is not safe mixing the two. I have had a good experience with Changa while on mdma as well, but would not continue playing with fire mixing harmalas with stimulants like that.
 
bongo264
#3 Posted : 8/8/2015 6:41:25 PM

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Thanks and concombres is totally right!

Changa was just all I had at the time. Next time just some enhanced leaf.

I did keep that in mind though and the changa I made was maybe 150mg of harms (last of the batch) to 1g of DMT plus like 500mg of the oily part on purple lotus flower.

And we didn't start till the hard edge of the phenethylamines were over. After the first hit I also waited a bit looking for odd feelings.

Thanks for the feedback. Yes definitely could get you in trouble.
 
 
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