So after 5 or 6 only mildly successful attempts with pure spice SWIM had a much more captivating experience. The first few times ingesting around .10-.15 mgs through various devices such as a gvg and the machine SWIM was only able to obtain very mild CEV. The best way to describe these experiences would be if you were star gazing while laying on your bed but rather than stars seeing fractals and various shapes and images.

Now on this go around SWIM loaded around .25 mg between ashes in a bong. The experience was much much more intense. If SWIM were to rate the first experiences between 1-10 they would be a 1 or 2, this a 4 or 5. Instead of seeing the fractals and images it was much more like SWIM was in them or at least seeing them much more in 360 degrees instead of straight ahead. The other difference was that there was a lot of different stuff going on all at once. The best way to describe it would be if you were at a sports bar that had 8 NFL games on TV stacked 2x4 in a row. You could see all of them or you could focus in on the bottom left and watch the Giants and Redskins.

SWIM felt being pulled into one "TV" and going that way and getting really into it. Then SWIM would freak out a bit and remember that SWIM has forgotten to breath for minutes, obviously in actuality it was probably normal breathing. SWIM would think "All you have to do is remember to breath" All would be cool and then the same thing again. This went on for a bit.

SWIM did not really see "figures" but at one point there was a slow moving very rudimentary image of a shadow man. It was almost like when you see a cloud that looks like a man just sort of float by in the sky. It was nothing terrifying at all but very intriguing. The cloud/shadow man gently raised his knee and SWIM sort of morphed/floated into it and then began watching another TV.

SWIM was happy to have finally come closer to a break out dose. SWIM is sure this is probably pretty far from a "breakout experience" but SWIM does not know how far away. It is also hard to guess how much was consumed of the .25. There were 4 medium sized bong hits taken. SWIM suspects there is much left but it is hard to tell.

Does this sound like a .25 dosage or much more tame than a "typical" .25 would be.

This site is very informative and SWIM can not thank all of the contributors enough for all of their help. Especially for giving the idea of an ash sandwich in a bong. This worked while nothing else did.

Who's this SWIM guy?

Do you mean 10, 15, and 25mg? .25mg isn't even threshold (i bet even a mouse would be underwhelmed at that dose).

Yes,sorry I meant 10, 15 and 25

I have had a similar exp. where a shadow figure of a man appeared in front of me, every time i glanced at him(it) he moved into my peripherals, never could get a lock on him. Its strange, after the first time we "met" we seemed cool with one another because it seemed to understand me after the intimidation factor, lol but I know there were no foul intentions from this being, I dunno. But It sounds like spirit being checking on you. That's what i gathered from what I went through too as well..

Peace, dls

Hmmm, I've been dabbling around 15-20mg and it sounds about the same intensity of what you described. Last night I took 30mg in one massive hit. I think that was a little bit further than I'm comfortable with at this stage

I've been starting with low doses, being underwhelmed, then raising my dose to find a good level. My last dose was a bit overwhelming. But then, isn't that the point?

Yes, I once read on this forum, instead of dosing very precisely every dosage and then when making a small mistake in inhaling not 100% correct, ending up with a too small dose, it's much easier to dose a bit more than a 'one hit dose' so when things are not 100% correct, you can try again a few times.

Yeah I find it kind of hard to know what dose I am getting. Based on reports I do not think I got close to finishing off the .25.