Joa everyone.

As you may see, I'm the new member and look forward to entering the void (or hyperspace). I've never tried DMT, but I've read a lot of information about it, i.e. the dosage, extraction, scientific data etc etc. However, I've always been wondering, what it's like to take an extremely high dosage. Would some of you experienced users mind sharing some thoughts or perhaps story of what it's like?

What one would call a high dosage varies from person to person, however 25g is a very extreme dosage that I can’t imagine anyone has ever actually tried. I can’t imagine it is physically possible to inhale that much vapour, maybe you mean 25mg?

If you have a root around in the experience section you will find many reports at many dose levels.

Awkward. Is it possible to edit the title?
Of course I meant 25mg, I believe a gramm would be simply fatal for a mind to digest and comprehend.
Thanks for the info, I'll check it out.

You can edit the post title if you go back to your first post and click the edit button.

You couldn't turn a gram into vapour.
When I first started I had hundreds of milligrams in my machine. I thought that .15g was 15mg but it was 150mg.
When I got a good dose of it I was gone and didn't exist then I had my experience/flash and parts of it were painful physically , my brain hurt. Another time I was scared beyond belief.
When I eventually saw the amount I was supposed to be using I couldn't believe it 15-25mg looks like nothing.
You live and learn.... and then buy mg scales

Yea, I imagine so, but still, forgive my ignorance, I only know, how to wash down shrooms with black tea.



Sounds like extremely painful and fast disintegration. That's the scariest thing for me personally. I even stopped thinking about shrooms for like 5 years.


Just recently got them.

Don't be too concerned about high doses. That would be like jumping off a cliff when you could just get your feet wet first to see if the water is nice. Try moving up from 10 mg to 15 to 20. I bet your comfort zone is a little below 25 mg.

Some thoughts from members https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=593395#post593395

Never did I dream of even considering taking high doses. Since my last trip with shrooms, which I had five years ago, I swore I'd never take psychedelics in any amount out of curiousity or "solving the problems" or whatever without having a proper balance in my life. I've been working on this all this time and I'm still not ready.

I asked it, because, since DMT is the strongest out there, I'm curious, what effects are after taking that amount.

Thanks for the link.

Some would argue that Salvia is the strongest out there...

Just recently made some research about it. It appears so, however, many users tend to say that Salvia, unlike DMT, is quiet violent and fast at pitilessly breaking you apart. If that is true, then I don't personally look forward to it.

Any psychedelic requires proper preparation and slow build-up. The description of the effects is not appealing to me as well but I would not buy all the crap you read about salvia as 99,9% of the people who tried it did not have the faintest idea of what they were doing and got their butts kicked big time... those are of course 99,9% of the stories you read about... (percentages are of course a figure of speech)

I'm a secrete fan of this member. Incredible knowledge. Check out this thread on salvia, it will calm your nerves for sure. I can't speak on it, never had the opportunity. It will find me one day

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=33587

There are of course quite a few experiences posted in the trip report section on doses 25mg and up.

I don't know if this warrants for an extremely high dosage but what I felt has made me not want to go higher until more years of experience are obtained.

Before the hit I had some friends over who were actually trying it for the first time. We're taking turns with the holy grail of rigs to vape out of, The GVG, packing 25-50mg+- of spice each time. All of us are loving each visit.. Feeling the presence of entities, COLORFUL geometrical patterns that made high school geometry look like a pre-k coloring book, a rush of energy coursing through the body making you feel as though you had been asleep for decades, an overwhelming sense that you're in a safe place... For 10 minutes, there is no fear, no hate, no greed, no murder, no famine, no war, no poverty, it's not monday, what is a week?, you're job is nothing, your car is just a bunch of atoms who had an unfortunate slip up with fate and in the ended crafted into metals and plastic and adjoined to make a machine, earth is just a rock in the middle of nowhere harboring a perpetual cycle of life just because it has the necessary conditions to do so and has nothing else better to do...The norm.

Friends leave and an overwhelming sense of exploration takes a hold as every cell yearns to be plunged into the depths of The Void.

Weighed out whatever I had left which was a combination of a brown wax and white crystals weighing out to ~160mg and then proceeded to pack it all and get the lighter ready... Paced around the house and did some deep breathing to prepare oneself for what was about to go down. Grabbed gallon of water and Laptop for music during the ride and water for when I comeback. Plopped myself high and pride and into my bed and begun ritual:

-Laptop on stand with volume set to about 60% and selecting random song.. In this case and I have no idea I went in on a remixed version of Bass Cannon by Excision.
-Pillows propped for when I lay back and blanket set so when I fall back I can lay it over my eyes to help block out light and soak in those visuals.
-GVG packed and being preheated, Song on pause while spice is warming up
- Previous resin has turned from crystals back into black soup and is ready for intake, Music has been started and first inhale is beginning.

T+0:00 Beginning to inhale, can taste and smell the spice(DELICIOUS) and the music is getting my somewhat amped for ego annihilation.
T+0:10 Filled up, the air is starting to seem thinner, every sound around me begins to slowly diminish as if slowly fading to black at the end of the movie or song but I am still here.
Hold
Hold
Hold... Is the air hissing?
Exhale
T+0:15-17 Can still feel myself on Earth and human and am disappointed so I relight.
Hold
Hold
Hold...Is someone ripping cellophane?
Hold... Hey, who is dimming the sun?
Hold... What the fuck did I just take?
Exhale
T+0:22-25 An overwhelming sense of fear washes over me(Really normal but this one was a little more vivid and intense) only 2 thoughts are dancing and it's "Throw that pipe at the wall and flush that shit" and "Finish the bowl".... I relight and take in every last vapor I can...
Hold
Hold... At this point I think I'm still holding but more than positive this is when I blacked and started the trip.
Hold
Hold
Hold
The normal visuals and feeling come at first but they come and they go before I even noticed they were there. At this point the song did it's first drop and it's such a distorted and fucked up song that the way the high is mimicing the song is somewhat awesome but at the same time one of the most terrifying moments of my existence. It's a dubstep and this one in particular sounds like someone took soundwaves and threw them in a blender and threw that blender on a stovetop and made scrambled eggs with it(That's not a reference to what it sounds like but rather what the combined effect of the spice and the song are doing to my brain and perception of reality).
T+1:00 I FUCKED UP! IM STUCK LIKE THIS FOREVER!
Information is flooding through my mind at an alarming rate that I just can't keep up with.
Geometric patterns are a thing of a past, what I am seeing I can't even think of words to describe.
About 2 minutes of that goes by and the song is coming up to another drop, for a brief moment I have a moment where I am back on earth and it's like I never smoked the spice in the first place and I know to just get up and go on about my day..laundry or some shit.
Open my eyes
Everything is2D.
This is it.. you finally did, pushed your limits and now you lost the ability to perceive a dimension. I'm laying on my bed eyes wide open staring at my wall, the spice is coursing and I don't have the energy to get up. The wall is flatter than it usually is if that's possible to understand and imagine, my ceiling light is on and yet everything in the room from the ceiling fan blades, to my clothes, dresser, EVERYTHING loses it's shadow.
I start to break.
Water...I need water.
I muster all my strength and turn my head left to see my laptop..music video goes from 360 pixels to 18. It was like looking at the first graphics ever invented. Still playing music and as I look at it I can see the music distorting my reality. As the bass spins and the producer mashes it up..Believe it or not the color around me begins to separate. You know when a channel goes down and there's those vertical color bars that go left to right red,yellow,green,blue,purple.. just the whole rainbow side by side? My whole vision became that as the whole world was like looking through rainbow goggles.. a deeper explanation. As I looked from up to down on my wall the top 4 inches from left to right everything I could see was a strip of red... the next 4 inches were all yellow... then all green..so on and so forth. Every inch I saw was a solid color and as the song continued to mash up, the colors began to switch around, some began to blend and then re-separate.. The spice along with the song were now controlling my very perception of reality and it almost left me nostalgic yet full of dread.
T+5:00+- I want this to end now.
Water, where was that water???
With a full force I fling myself off the bed where I land in front of the gallon of water.
Hah..gallon jug....This what used to be gallon jug was now a clear plastic box with a cap that went from a shiny pink circle shape to a matte almost red-pink square shape..this scares me yet I let out a slight giggle oddly. I throw the cap. I throw the jug up and chug as fast as I can as my throat felt dry as paper and it was about to fold in on itself... I needed this water. I can feel it..... What is H20 feels like little plastic lego pieces, each sip feels like a handful of micro blocked toys flowing down my throat and it doesn't phase me one bit.

We are at the point of the remix where a sample says " I grew up a fucking screw-up " followed by even heavier distortion of bass that's essentially the cherry to the hot fudge sundae. After that, all my mind is thinking right now is "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA he's right, WHAT A FUCKING SCREW-UP!" . A thought cycle begins to envelop that this is how I am going to be for the rest of my life however long that may be and I just can't accept it and whip open my bedroom door and run out to the front yard. I lay in it and close my eyes and repeat a soothing script of "You're alive. Breath. Life is beautiful. Breath. Death is freedom. Breath. Accept. Breath. Just let it be. Breathe."
Afterwards over the next minute or so all of the effects began to diminish very quickly, just as fast as they came on. Earth and reality were beginning to reintegrate into one perception once again. The normal feelings of rebirth and enlightenment began to shower over but with a lot more umph.

Although it may have sounded a little bad at times, this was my most memorable journey and I don't regret it the slightest rather I am glad I went through with it. I came into it with no respect thinking that a little more is nothing and it's just another drug that can be conquered with sheer will and junkie determination. Spice straight bitch slapped me and put me in my place.. I took a shit on his rug and he grabbed me by the neck and shoved my face in it to teach me to stop taking everything for granted and respect all life.

And that didn't mess me up like you might think but rather gave me the idea to go farther and try Aya. Just be safe and WEIGH YOUR HITS!!!

The most i have ever used at once was 200 mg insufflated. this resulted in an extreme ego death, hour long experience, a hallucination that was real (i saw a friend in his house talking on the phone with me when i was scared) and taught me that i should never be that reckless again.

The most i ever vaporized was 120 mg in a (faulty) machine.
what happens with this version of the machine is that i discovered that per hit, 20 mg is vaporized. what i did not know was that the mesh ball i was using was combustible at certain temperatures.
I had loaded 200 mg in it for a group that was interested and prepared for travel. the first person took 4 hits and had a wonderful time, then i took my turn. Sadly I was the last one able to use it. I took the first hit, no problem. then the second hit comes around and all of a sudden I notice the machine ball glowing and a lot of vapor forming. I finish the hit and hold it for 7 seconds. As I hold my breath, i take a look at the ball and notice the inside where i loaded the spice was glowing orange. The effects were starting to grip me so i didn't think to much of it. Third hit comes around and this is where things start to go fuzzy. I can remember putting the bottle down and i remember i awaking to quite a few people staring at me intently. After everything ended i opened the machine ball to find that all of it was vaporized.

anyways enough stories here is from what i have experimented with, discovered with dosages personally.

10mg- NA
20mg- very very light effects, almost like taking half a hit of weed, no visuals
30mg- light effects, slight oev and cev, can remember everything
40mg- average effects, powerful oev and cev, can remember most of the trip, only made it to the "waiting room" BEST BEGINNER DOSE
50mg- strong effects, captivatingly powerful oev and cev, can remember about half the trip
60mg- NA
70mg- extreme effects, over-powerful oev and and cev, can remember usually the begging and end of the trip
80mg- NA
90mg- NA
100mg- dont remember anything

i must clarify that when i say remembering the trip i am talking about only the first 15 minutes of it where most of the magic is happening.

As you said they are your personal values but I certainly wouldn't advise 40mg as a beginners dose because for most people it would be a breakthrough dose. I've broke through on 25. As someone else states "always test the waters"

Happy travels

Please keep in mind that different devices, techniques, and levels of experience all influence the size of a dose required to reach a particular level.

For example, an experienced person using a GVG or similar device and impeccable technique can reach breakthrough with as little as 20mg, have a deep, fully-immersive breakthrough with 25mg, and have an uncomfortably intense experience with 30mg.

One’s personal dosage experience is not necessarily similar to that of others, and that’s one reason it’s not advisable to recommend particular quantities. Better to gradually work one’s way up to an optimum level.

^This exactly.

I used to think I needed 40mg(sandwich method) for breakthrough until I got my gvg. Now, 20-25mg shatters my world every time.

I have a friend who won't go past 10-15mg, but can't believe how intense it is at even that low of a dose.

Didn't expect so many people to assist me with this question. Thank you kindly, I got what I wanted.