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Nathanial.Dread
#1 Posted : 12/18/2014 4:00:00 AM

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Well?
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#2 Posted : 12/18/2014 4:08:29 AM
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Yes. But I suspect that there is a follow-up question; like you have some point to make.
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#3 Posted : 12/18/2014 5:09:45 AM

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Ha ha, yeah, what's the agenda, natty? Big grin

I don't know. Looking at my life as a whole, there's too many variables. The first part of my psychedelic career was my hedonistic teens and twenties. They definitely made me happy through providing alot of fun, but in a mental health sense, probably not. Probably more a case of self destructive early drug addiction behavior combined with a seeking personality, I was always curious about consciousness.

That's where my history as a drug addict gets confusing. There's so many things that went into my decent into darkness, but honestly the real unhappiness and depression didn't come til after i was strung out. Whether or not i was self medicating to begin with, i sure was in the end.

My second phase with psychedelics is my current life. Having been shaken out of self pitying,deluded and destructive mind by 5meo DMT, i now have seen the glory, hallelujah, and praise DMT! I credit the molecule for substantial growth that I've endured the last couple years, hiccuping and stumbling all the way, but I honestly believe I'd be one of the three out of four heroin addicts that die in the addiction had the molecule not killed me first, more gently, as the song goes.

But yeah nat,what gives, man. Stop
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#4 Posted : 12/18/2014 5:29:29 AM

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It's tough to say, but overall I would say yes. Sometimes I am scared to imagine the world that I would live in if I had never started. Psychedelics made me realize what my life really was, by shrinking my ego and allowing me to take a good, hard look at myself and my surroundings.

I guess it was pretty bad at the beginning, but it was a novel experience. I would not say that my LSD trips are "happy," but afterwards I am able to analyze if I am happy or not. I am able to sense things that I couldn't previously.

I used to be a stone-cold atheist, but DMT has shown me another side to things. I guess realizing that there is so much more to this and having tangible personal experience is enough to fulfill me and make me happier than I was.

Overall it might just be that I can better analyze what really makes me happy, allowing me to pursue these things. Realizing that material goods aren't that satisfying has helped a lot too, and it is easier to live a life of good experiences and empathy. So they didn't change my happiness necessarily, but the lens that observes and refracts that happiness.
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#5 Posted : 12/18/2014 5:38:08 AM

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I didn't want to post it in the original topic, because I didn't want to clutter the question with my own thoughts on the matter. I feel like on The Nexus we think a lot of big, wide, deep thoughts, and sometimes the simpler (simplest) things get lost.

I want to know if Nexians are happy, and if psychedelics have helped facilitate that. I've been thinking about it a lot lately -- they have certainly made me feel happier. Beyond just providing relief from mental illnesses like OCD and depression, I feel like I have a deep, inner peace that feels true and familiar, but also very new and strange.

I wonder if anyone else has that.

Beyond thinking thoughts about the nature of reality and God, are we happy? Are we existentially okay with the universe?

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#6 Posted : 12/18/2014 5:40:29 AM

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They've made me feel more fulfilled. I was a solid atheist before I took acid and then so on. I owe most of my spirituality (which in turn brings me happiness) to psychadelics.
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#7 Posted : 12/18/2014 6:08:52 AM
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:


I want to know if Nexians are happy, and if psychedelics have helped facilitate that.

I wonder if anyone else has that.

Beyond thinking thoughts about the nature of reality and God, are we happy? Are we existentially okay with the universe?

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Absolutely; every day.
 
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#8 Posted : 12/18/2014 6:17:12 AM

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happy? no. aware? perhaps..
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It's tough to say, but overall I would say yes. Sometimes I am scared to imagine the world that I would live in if I had never started. Psychedelics made me realize what my life really was, by shrinking my ego and allowing me to take a good, hard look at myself and my surroundings.

I guess it was pretty bad at the beginning, but it was a novel experience. I would not say that my LSD trips are "happy," but afterwards I am able to analyze if I am happy or not. I am able to sense things that I couldn't previously.

I used to be a stone-cold atheist, but DMT has shown me another side to things. I guess realizing that there is so much more to this and having tangible personal experience is enough to fulfill me and make me happier than I was.

Overall it might just be that I can better analyze what really makes me happy, allowing me to pursue these things. Realizing that material goods aren't that satisfying has helped a lot too, and it is easier to live a life of good experiences and empathy. So they didn't change my happiness necessarily, but the lens that observes and refracts that happiness.


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#10 Posted : 12/18/2014 6:39:18 AM

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#11 Posted : 12/18/2014 7:12:32 AM

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I really dont know how to answer this question. Maybe im just being difficult.

A lot of things have changed in my life since my "spiritual" journey with psychedelics started. Some good, some great, some not so much but nothing tragic. Some of those things came about due to my use which led me towards action. As far as actually being happier than i was before hand i cant really say. I have generally always been a pretty happy person. Maybe happy for some slightly different reasons.

Psychedelics have definitely caused me to be more focused on the goal. The things in life that i am unhappy about havent really changed for quite some time but that's mostly due to not having an answer to those things yet.

Any unhappiness in my life is mainly trivial things, so i guess psychedelics taught me that.
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#12 Posted : 12/18/2014 8:09:08 AM

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No, they didn't. But they help me to find a path, which, if I am able to walk it, will lead to more happiness.

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#13 Posted : 12/18/2014 8:11:56 AM

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Yes. Psychedelics saved my life.

I would not be who I am today if I had never decided to spontaneously take mushrooms that one fateful night, and I have thought about that experience quite literally every single day since.

I owe a great deal to the Nexus community for providing a context for my early psychedelic explorations, but overall it is because of these primary experience that I have a much deeper appreciation for being alive, existing, relationships, and the privileged life that I lead. I do not know if taking these substances will always be a part of my life, but the lessons that I have learned from them will stay with me until the day that I die.
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#14 Posted : 12/18/2014 8:57:32 AM

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yeah
but no,
but yeah,
but no,
but overall, yeah
see the tale i posted the other day for details.

as other say its pretty complicated and there are lots of factors, i dont know where id be without the Magic so i dont know if i would be in the same place as i am now.

currently, if i get a grip and sit down and have a word with myself then yes i am happy, if i let my monkey space suit run the show then the happyness certainly diminishes.
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#15 Posted : 12/18/2014 2:12:36 PM

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Nope.

Psychedelics - in particular - dmt - more particular - the daily integration of my humble experience with it - let me remember how happy i've always been.

Or if as i were to use a frame of refference from Castaneda's writtings, psychedelics helped me to recall how i make the world.

So this count as Yes.
 
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#16 Posted : 12/18/2014 2:56:10 PM

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I would say yes. It's hard I guess to say how I would be now if I had never dabbled. But I do feel psychedelics have enriched my life and given me fulfilment and increased my awareness of and connection to what is really important in [my] life.
 
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#17 Posted : 12/18/2014 3:05:18 PM
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When i'm on them i'm almost too happy and at times even reject the bliss in favor of clarity, there is also an afterglow that can last up to a few weeks or more afterwards, but the best contribution to my happiness they have made is putting me on a consciously spiritual path whereas before i was seeking happiness unconsciously.

Saying that, it's far from over, i'm not of the opinion that psychedelics are just triggers or eye openers, once you're really on the path that's when i feel they can come into their own...
 
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#18 Posted : 12/18/2014 3:17:55 PM

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More interesting, I'm not sure about happy. I'm more disappointed in humanity but feel more privileged to have had such amazing experiences. Leaving this world momentarily for a place of pure love and light, only to come back surrounded by the judgemental bitterness of media moneyland is difficult, especially when you live right in the centre of it. But I would have never met the incredible people I have, or been to the places or shared the experiences I treasure so much had it not been for psychedelics. It's a little bittersweet, and still takes a lot of effort to distance myself from that which (I am so much more aware) is dragging my soul down. But I do have a new way to help it fly, which psychedelics helped to open a path to.
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#19 Posted : 12/18/2014 4:07:35 PM
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I just wanted to add something to what I said above, since it was kind of short.

Alongside this happiness is another feeling that really is hard to describe and in a way is where this happiness is birthed from, ime - this strong sense of impartiality towards my thoughts and situations that come up in the world. This happiness has seemed to birth from this evenness-of-mind.

At first it was somewhat unnerving, as I thought that all the life/feeling had been sapped out of me, but over time this thought settled into what I experience now as an intense form of clarity/ease of thought, whether it's with my own thoughts or an actual situation in life.

Literally, every day for me, feels like im outside of myself and what id normally attach to mentally-speaking is no longer. At first it felt sort of drone-like, but over time this emptiness of mind has led me to experiencing the fullness from where it comes.

This feeling/mode of being gradually gained in momentum over time and has become very apparent in my day-to-day. This eventually led to this happiness that feels as if it's outside of the typical constructs of my thoughts and my day-to-day interactions.

DMT undoubtedly brought this forth. In a deep breakthrough, this impartiality is very apparent. Some might perceive it as 'cold and/or indifferent', which i've heard some say here, but for me, ime, this realtionship has led to me being the happiest i've ever been.
 
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No control group for myself, so it's impossible to say for sure.

I can say, though, that they have been associated with long-term positive changes in my life, which I think translates to happiness. But I think they only 'work' as an additional tool if one is also making the effort in daily life.
 
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