I see this topic appear a lot throughout the chat and the forum itself.

This thread is to address the main concerns of tap water and its common added chemicals as well as naturally occurring compounds related to tap water or simply using for extraction purposes, or simply curiosity. To really find out what's in your water, look into your online, local water treatment facility and view the PDF's which outline levels and also exposure levels within your locality. Note how low each compound is in terms of measurement and would likely fail to change psychoactive principals such as entheogenic compounds. Below is just one example within my regulated locality.

For starters, here are naturally occurring common elements in various common measurements. Some of which are crucial for bodily functions. Usually most facilities have common regulations in regards to measuring added compounds which will be posted. All facilities will vary in accordance to levels. Some more, some less.

Antimony <0.0001 mg/L
Arsenic 0.0004 mg/L
Barium 0.012 mg/L
Boron <0.005 mg/L
Cadmium <0.00002 mg/L
Chromium <0.002 mg/L
Mercury <0.00002 mg/L
Selenium <0.001 mg/L
Sodium 5.6 mg/L
Uranium 0.00008 mg/L
Fluoride(added) 0.61 mg/L
Nitrite?

Naturally occurring fluoride is also found in many commonly naturally occurring foods and drinks such as black tea, raisins, wine, potatoes, lamb, carrots and a wide variety of other fruits.

The rest are mostly inorganic compounds. Many of which are very hazardous at much higher levels and also show consistent expression on various inhibition pathways within the brain and body. These compounds will vary from place to place. Many of these compounds are very questionable and do raise concerns on the environment and human health.

Alachlor <0.0003 mg/L
Aldicarb <0.003 mg/L
Aldrin + Dieldrin<0.00002 mg/L
Atrazine + N-dealkylated metobolites <0.0005 mg/L
Azinphos-methyl <0.001 mg/L
Bendiocarb <0.003 mg/L
Benzene <0.0005 mg/L
Benzo(a)pyrene <0.000005 mg/L
Bromoxynil <0.0003 mg/L
Carbaryl <0.003 mg/L
Carbofuran <0.001 mg/L
Carbon Tetrachloride <0.0002 mg/L
Chlordane (Total) <0.00004 mg/L
Chlorpyrifos <0.0005 mg/L
Cyanazine <0.0005 mg/L
Diazinon <0.001 mg/L
Dicamba <0.005 mg/L
1,2-Dichlorobenzene <0.0001 mg/L
1,4-Dichlorobenzene <0.0002 mg/L
Dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane (DDT) +
metabolites <0.00001 mg/L
1,2-Dichloroethane <0.0001 mg/L
1,1-Dichloroethylene(vinylidene chloride)<0.0001 mg/L
Dichloromethane <0.0003 mg/L
2-4 Dichlorophenol <0.0001 mg/L
2,4-Dichlorophenoxy acetic acid (2,4-D)<0.005 mg/L
Diclofop-methyl <0.0005 mg/L
Dimethoate <0.001 mg/L
Dinoseb <0.0005 mg/L
Diquat?
Glyphosate<0.025 mg/L
Heptachlor + Heptachlor Epoxide <0.0001 mg/L
Lindane (Total) <0.0001 mg/L
Malathion <0.005 mg/L
Methoxychlor <0.0001 mg/L
Metolachlor <0.003 mg/L
Metribuzin <0.003 mg/L No
Monochlorobenzene <0.0002 mg/L
Paraquat <0.001 mg/L
Parathion <0.003 mg/L
Pentachlorophenol <0.0001 mg/L
Phorate <0.0003 mg/L
Picloram <0.005 mg/L
Prometryne <0.0001 mg/L
Simazine <0.0005 mg/L
THM 0.0347 mg/L
Temephos<0.010 mg/L
Terbufos <0.0003 mg/L
Tetrachloroethylene <0.0002 mg/L
2,3,4,6-Tetrachlorophenol <0.0001 mg/L
Triallate <0.010 mg/L No
Trichloroethylene <0.0001 mg/L
2,4,6-Trichlorophenol <0.0001 mg/L
2,4,5-Trichlorophenoxy acetic acid (2,4,5-T) <0.010 mg/L
Trifluralin Jan 22 <0.0005 mg/L
Vinyl Chloride?

Well, there you have it. Plenty of inorganics and organic compounds found in typical tap water. This was resourced from my current area in the city. Any compound you wish to explore or wish to know more about, simply leave a reply or posting, and it will be addressed. Also post what you have found on which addressed compounds.

I've found that many of these compounds inhibit particular cholinesterase pathways within the mammalian brain, resulting in interference with certain brain activities, which prevents the breakdown of acetylcholine in the synapses. Thus, increasing the firing rate.

To reduce impurities, there are many things you can do such as getting the distilled water or utilizing a filtration system or other filtering options such as Lifestraw.

I'm actually paying money for that function. Preventing the breakdown of acetylcholine means higher acetylcholine levels resulting in better memory and is also associated with lucid dreaming.

It's a strange effect, indeed.

A few things to consider:

- exposure from multiple sources

- cumulative effects

- individual sensitivity

- trans-dermal absorption



The majority of water fluoridation chemicals are not from natural sources or pharmaceutical grade quality. They are industrial by-products such as fluorosilicic acid which are added to the water where the dose cannot be controlled.

We can't always control our exposure to toxins, but we do have options when it comes to the quality of water we drink. Personally, I drink a lot of water, and so I'll always opt for the pure stuff.

Thanks for the feedback!

I would agree that exposure levels from multiple sources is a necessary component to deciding whether or not to rely on the tap water in your area. I encourage anyone to post what their local facility accumulates.

Exposures within other facilities that work indirectly with deadly toxins and dangerous methods of outputs into the local environment is another consideration. Run down factories tend to leave underground leftover buildup of toxic residue which can lead to accumulation resulting in possibly affecting tap water. However, most facilities have filtering methods for compounds that are not welcome to regulations.

Cumulative effects depends what compound said person is sensitive to. This also depends on the measurement of said compounds, and the bodily ability to rid of it.

Systemic distribution may actually be much worse than that of drinking tap water because the average person showers or baths for 5-10min.. whereas people don't drink tap water for that long, clearly. So, exposure would be much heavier in this instance, which is why I like short showers. I would think many salts would help dissolve many inorganics. Chlorine is another compound that is very common and causes irritation to eyes, hair, nostrils, nails, skin and internal irritation as well. Many people are allergic to chlorine and actually many other irritates found in tap/shower water without realizing it!

Can you elaborate on fluorosilicic acid? It's synthetic and toxic when evaporated but how so when added to water? When concentrated, it can burn human tissue.

Also, another good add on to discussion is diet. Many of these low accumulated/added compounds can be easily detoxified by the body in accordance to a healthy, optimal body.
For example, turmeric was recently found to eliminate excessive fluoride from the body. So it wouldn't surprise me that other common spices, herbs and foods have similar properties and processes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969660/

Okay, here's my local tap water. I found a analysis and transcribed the results. Some of the compounds I have translated the chemical names to english, but probably incorrectly. I hope these are still intelligible. If not please let me know...

oxygen 7,5 mg/l
pH 7,73
anorganic carbon total 28 mg C/l

CO2 4.5 mg/l
hydrogencarbonate 131 mg/l

chloride 28 mg/l
sulfate 44 mg SO4/l
sodium 20.0 mg/l
potassium 3.0 mg.l
silicate 6.14 mg Si/l

calcium 54,5 mg/l
magnesium 6,22 mg/l

ammonium <0,03 mg NH4/l
nitrite <0,01 mg NO2/l
nitrate 17,3 mg NO3/l
fosfate <0,03 mg PO4/l

iron 0,015 mg/l
manganese <0,005 mg/l
aluminium <2 ug/l
antimoon Sb <1 ug/l
arsenic <0,5 ug/l
barium 19,1 ug/l
boor B 30,5 ug/l
cadmium <0,10 ug/l
chrome <0,5 ug/l
copper 0,506 ug/l
mercury <0,02 ug/l
lead <0,5 ug/l
nikkel Ni 1,61 ug/l
selenium <0,5 ug/l
zinc 3,09 ug/l
cyanide <2 ug/l
fluoride <0,05 mg/l

total organic carbon <0,5 mg/l

organic compounds:

BAM/Carbendazim/DEET/Metamitron/Dimenthenamide-P have been found
Dikegluac have been found
Fosforic- and Nitrogen pesticides/ Acetamiden (ONPB/ACM) have not been found
Glyfosaat / AMPA / Glufosinaat have not been found
Herbicides and Algicides positive ionisation have been found
Organochlorinepesticides (OCB) have not been found
Polychlorinebifenyles (PCB) have not been found
Polycyclic Aromatic Carbon (PAK) have not been found
Volatile Carbons (VAK VGK) have been found

Metolachlorine (OA) <0,1 ug/l
BAM 0,10 ug/l
Tetrachlorineethene 0,20 ug/l
Metolachlorine (ESA) 0,18 ug/l
c is 1,2-Dichlorineethene <0,05 ug/l
Dikegulac 0,04 ug/l

Thanks for adding the pH value! Forgot about that..

Your water certainly has more nutrients. Carbendazim destroys testicles at high doses.. You'd best be sure what measurement that is at.. if not, that is a human right to acknowledge and know 100%. Also, many of those organics are actually inorganics, afaik.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbendazim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEET Cholinesterase inhibiters.. these are very common in tap water. This is also used as a mosquito repellent.

Once you look into each compound itself, it can be terrifying that many of them are even considered, let alone put into the water! However, many of them also have medicinal value with very low dosages.

Elaborate? Hmmm...it's nasty stuff!



Good point. Thanks for posting that link, it just goes to show how important a healthy diet can be when living in a toxic environment where it can be hard to control what we're exposed to.

Also, I would post the water quality values for my area but I don't know how to open PDF's on my ancient computer. I'm very illiterate when it comes to that stuff.

By the way, I love your signature. Much wisdom there.

Indeed.. I'd rather not work with it personally..

No problem! Seeing how curcumin can modulate the body in accordance of leveling out the detoxification process (assuming many of these low grade toxins accumulate within some forms of oxidation) it can be said that an optimized body can easily protect itself, internally and externally.

That is alright.. it is good discussion nonetheless. I admire ancient hardware.

Thank you for the kind words.

Thanks for the reminder! Probably one the greatest forms of water we have today.