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starway6
#1 Posted : 7/19/2014 11:51:08 PM

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Is Anyone following the war in Ukeraine..and Russia?
It makes me worry about WW3 as a posibility within a year or less..
It would be nice if people would just stop hurting and killing each other..
Would be nice..If the human race could evolve enough to live together in peace..
 

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#2 Posted : 7/20/2014 12:35:12 AM
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Yes, I follow world news in general and this past month has certainly been a mess between Ukraine and Russia, ISIS/ISIL (now simply "Islamic State" ), and the never ending Middle East mess between Israel and the Palestinians. Despite everything going on I personally don't think we are going to see WW3 within a year or even within the near future. Things will remain messy and people will continue to die but I believe for now at least that these regional conflicts will remain regional. A more likely scenario in my opinion is a new cold war like atmosphere.

I agree it would be nice if people would just stop killing each other but that simply isn't going to happen anytime in the foreseeable future. The human race has been killing and subjugating each other since we have been recording our history. It seems that hate and violence are simply a part of human nature.

The best advice I can give you is to be the change you want to see in the world. It isn't much but it is about the best that we as individuals can do. Hopefully one day we will "evolve" enough to find peace, but honestly I think it is more likely we destroy the planet with nukes before we make peace.

 
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#3 Posted : 7/20/2014 12:36:45 AM

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starway6 wrote:
Is Anyone following the war in Ukeraine..and Russia?
It makes me worry about WW3 as a posibility within a year or less..
It would be nice if people would just stop hurting and killing each other..
Would be nice..If the human race could evolve enough to live together in peace..
I don't think World War III is likely, certainly not within the next year, but I have been following it and it is concerning. The potential for conflagration is definitely there, but I don't see it becoming an issue that other world powers are eager to get involved with. I certainly wouldn't expect the United States or China to get directly involved (two players I think we can all agree are mandatory for the 3rd World War).

The thing I am more concerned about is Israel/Palestine. I know this happens every couple of years, but this time feels different. That's a conflict that could draw in the US and a bunch of other well-armed states in the Middle East, and if things get bad enough, I could see it going nuclear.


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#4 Posted : 7/20/2014 2:22:21 AM

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starway6 wrote:
Is Anyone following the war in Ukeraine..and Russia?
It makes me worry about WW3 as a posibility within a year or less..


I doubt it "makes" you do anything. You do have the choice as to where you place your attention, and how to respond to what that attention perceives.

 
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#5 Posted : 7/20/2014 2:47:30 AM

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SpartanII wrote:
You do have the choice as to where you place your attention, and how to respond to what that attention perceives.


Couldn't agree more.

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I am not following this particular situation but I am aware of it. You seem to fear this. Allow yourself to accept the situation and do/be what makes you happy. If you wish to see peace around you, then perhaps realize the peace already within you. All is well, always. We don't all have the ability to stop war.

I feel you here. Reside with the beauty of the world instead of its current errors.

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#6 Posted : 7/20/2014 3:05:45 AM

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SpartanII wrote:
starway6 wrote:
Is Anyone following the war in Ukeraine..and Russia?
It makes me worry about WW3 as a posibility within a year or less..


I doubt it "makes" you do anything. You do have the choice as to where you place your attention, and how to respond to what that attention perceives.


Spoken like someone who has never lived with an anxiety disorder.
"There are many paths up the same mountain."

 
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#7 Posted : 7/20/2014 4:17:10 AM
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:
The thing I am more concerned about is Israel/Palestine. I know this happens every couple of years, but this time feels different. That's a conflict that could draw in the US and a bunch of other well-armed states in the Middle East, and if things get bad enough, I could see it going nuclear.


How do you feel this time is different? Israel is safer than ever since they have had their Iron Dome system put in place; it is extremely effective. The missile batteries are actually programmed in such a way that it calculates the trajectory of the incoming rocket and if that rocket is aimed at a population center it is intercepted. Rockets with a trajectory to land in a non-populous area are allowed to explode. Israel is more capable of protecting itself than it has ever been since its inception. Since the current ground incursion ~350 Palestinians have been confirmed dead (3/4 of which have been identified as civilians) while Israel has sustained 3 confirmed casualties as of the time I type this post.

The US isn't going to be drawn into this conflict since it is so incredibly one sided. While Obama has supported Israel's right to defend itself he has also expressed "deep concern" about the number of civilian deaths.

I can't think of any likely scenario where other countries are drawn into this conflict outside of arbitration positions. I definitely can't see this going nuclear. Syria, Iraq, and Iran are all too caught up in their own troubles to bother with the current Gazan conflict. Egypt has taken an anti-Hamas position. The only countries in the region that have actually been vocal against Israel in any meaningful way are Turkey and Pakistan and they only offered a harsh critique of Israeli actions. Pakistan's economy is completely dependent upon foreign aid from the States and Turkey is a NATO member with close ties to the United States, while both may condemn Israel neither will act against them.

Unless something truly unexpected and game-changing happens this current conflict will probably end through an arbitrated ceasefire, and likely in the near future. As you have mentioned, this scenario repeats every few years and pretty much always ends the same way. Large portions of Gaza and its infrastructure will be destroyed, Hamas's power and leadership will be greatly reduced, and a ceasefire will be signed until we play the game all over again in a few years.

Of course this is all just my opinion of the ongoing hostilities. I enjoy discussing foreign policy and world news and if you would like to expound on why you feel this time is different I'd love to hear your opinion, especially regarding the usage of nuclear weapons or your rationale of what other countries may join the conflict.
 
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#8 Posted : 7/20/2014 5:06:30 AM

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Nathanial.Dread wrote:
SpartanII wrote:
starway6 wrote:
Is Anyone following the war in Ukeraine..and Russia?
It makes me worry about WW3 as a posibility within a year or less..


I doubt it "makes" you do anything. You do have the choice as to where you place your attention, and how to respond to what that attention perceives.


Spoken like someone who has never lived with an anxiety disorder.


Brother, I have lived with just about as many "disorders" as you can find labels for, yet I don't allow them to limit my free will. Thumbs up

 
 
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