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TwennyBux
#1 Posted : 2/22/2014 10:25:03 AM

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Hey people, what's going on?

So SWIM finally built up the courage to try a decent dosage, or so he tells me. SWIM has always been floating around the 15-20mg mark, this has never gotten him far.

Tonight he decided to finally bump it up to 35mg, or thereabouts(it tends to stick to all of SWIMs utensils). His favourite method of smoking is the sandwich method in a water bong with something that closely resembles "The Key V2" which in his opinion is the best thing he has ever made for smoking.

Anyway, so about 35mg was loaded in between two layers of parsley/weed ash. Accompanied by his fiancée who wanted to watch, she has only just learned about the "spirit molecule" and to his surprise was very understanding about SWIMs "interests"(he has been in the dog box for a lot less, let me tell you). Apparently he couldn't get much on the first couple of tokes and started to doubt anything substantial would happen. But on the third toke, his lungs were completely filled with a very harsh but somewhat enjoyable smoke which was held in for an unknown amount of time. Everything from then on his hard to remember and explain.

He tells me he became totally disconnected. He forgot who he was, where he was and what he was doing there. He also forgot there was a bong in his hand. He could feel it in his hand but it was different. He then sort of snapped back to reality for a sec and tried to take another hit but it was too hard so he placed it on the table and proceeded to knock it over in the process. He then slipped away again and experienced the most amazing OEVs ever, unexplainable patterns and images filled the sky to the point where that it was the only thing he could see. A "being" then appeared in front of him, it cannot be compared to much except maybe one of those weird ink blot patterns. It had a very strange feeling about it but still very positive. It almost felt like it was speaking to him, no voices were heard however. He then closed his eyes and experienced a whole other world of imagery, which is beyond explainable. He does remember a weird image of hands holding each other and morphing amongst the patterns.

He then came too, completely in awe. It felt like a very long time but according to his fiancée was only in there for a few minutes. It was by far the best experience he has had of its kind and is still shaking while writing this. He's not even sure if it makes sense but had to write it down before it was forgotten. In conclusion it was f&$@*n amazing.

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Twenny
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TwennyBux
#2 Posted : 2/22/2014 10:41:53 AM

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He forgot to mention that he takes an SSRI anti-depressant which he hears can diminish the effects, so he skipped a dose the night before which seemed to help a lot. The experience was definitely overwhelming so no need to worry about diminished effects there. This may or may not be useful info for somebody as I see that question asked quite often
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Global
#3 Posted : 2/22/2014 12:08:53 PM

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Hey TwennyBux,

It sounds beautiful. FYI there's no need for SWIM'ing around here (we all know it's you Big grin )
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#4 Posted : 2/22/2014 1:15:38 PM

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I feel like I must sound like a broken record, but try eyes closed next time. Sounds like you were there, but probably would have gone deeper if you had closed your eyes. I can be fully enmeshed in hyperspace, open my eyes and the room looks totally normal, compared to what's happening behind my eyelids.
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#5 Posted : 2/22/2014 1:21:55 PM
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Mister_Niles wrote:
I feel like I must sound like a broken record, but try eyes closed next time. Sounds like you were there, but probably would have gone deeper if you had closed your eyes. I can be fully enmeshed in hyperspace, open my eyes and the room looks totally normal, compared to what's happening behind my eyelids.


^^^ This.

I recently had my first closed eye trip...way different than open eyes. And way less anxiety during the process as well, interestingly enough.
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Global
#6 Posted : 2/22/2014 1:30:46 PM

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There's a time and a place for everything. That being said, I tend to be more of an eyes closed guy myself. It's not that you can't get lovely multidimensional OEVs, that can be incredibly detailed and really make you appreciate the subtlety of depth, but they're somehow not as likely to be beheld as with eyes closed, but with eyes closed, it's also so much more colorful and immersive. If you want to be in hyperspace, that's the way to go.
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"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
TwennyBux
#7 Posted : 2/22/2014 5:19:59 PM

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Hey guys, thanks for the input.

Ah yes the SWIM thing haha I guess it does seem a bit stupid now. It's hard trying to write in 3rd person anyway.

I know I probably put more emphasis on the OEV part but that was really only a small fraction of the experience and easier to remember. There was so much happening I forgot what I was doing. But when I closed my eyes after seeing the ink blot guy that's when the real trip started, I was in a whole different place. I wish I could of somehow taken a picture of what I could see because my memory of it faded so quickly. I can remember the feeling I had, but I'm not sure how to explain that. The weird thing is though that the feelings I get, no matter how strange, always feel so familiar like I've been there before.

Twenny
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#8 Posted : 2/22/2014 6:53:02 PM

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Congratulations. It only gets weirder from here.

TwennyBux wrote:
I wish I could of somehow taken a picture of what I could see because my memory of it faded so quickly. I can remember the feeling I had, but I'm not sure how to explain that.


Ah, the sad lament of the DMT initiate. It's like grains of sand through our fingers. I'm often struck with the same thought as well. If I could only just snap a few photos in there and bring them back to share. Nothing would ever be the same!
 
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#9 Posted : 2/22/2014 7:21:39 PM

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Consider how much of "yesterday" you've managed to take with you as memories into today or that you will end up carrying on into the future. It would even out to be a pretty small percentage I'd imagine. Now you essentially get to take that same percentage of hyperspace with you, except it's harder to "inflate" those memories because of your lack of expectations for things that happen in hyperspace.
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"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
TwennyBux
#10 Posted : 2/22/2014 8:06:53 PM

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Another thing that may or may not be worth noting is that the spice was extracted 2 years ago and is still just as potent as the day it fell out of the root bark. This was, until last night, something I was a bit worried about as it has been sitting for so long. I still can't get over how incredibly trippy last night was haha.
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#11 Posted : 2/23/2014 2:24:39 AM

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Fantastic, man! Thumbs up The astonishing strangeness of hyperspace makes it something you want to be able to recall in minute detail but the astounding sights and sounds make that something impossible to do.

Personally, the more I've been able to explore hyperspace the more.familiar it becomes to me, and I'm not so amazed that I can't study the environment better. I find I tend to go to the same places too, nearly every time. It's like entering a classroom in another dimension for a lesson that is to be determined as we go along... Surprised

That has made it easier for me to remember the sights, and to be able to recognize them in art that is rendered by people far more talented than I. That way, I've been able to point people to images that help me explain to them what they might expect once they begin to explore the realm. The textiles of the Shipibo peoples of Peru (examples),.are really good representations of a "room" I frequent in hyperspace, for example. Of course they are 'snapshots'of a rapidly changing, multi-dimensional spectacle that would be quite impossible to render in any way, what with our limitations of living in a three dimensional reality . Even with a good level of familiarity , it is still near impossible to recall much. Truly ineffable.

It sounds as if you've been blessed with enough spice to allow you to explore the little bits of hyperspace 'they' will show to us. Hopefully, you will become familiar with the strange environments enough so that you can be calm enough to hear what 'they' have to tell you.

And as always love and light and HAPPY TRAILS TO YOU!
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TwennyBux
#12 Posted : 2/23/2014 4:44:36 AM

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Thanks for the reply Null24! I just checked out that Peruvian folk art, its very psychedelic looking and reminds me of some of the fractal patterns I have seen on my travels. The "room/area" I saw last night definitely had an Aztec sort of vibe to it, if that makes sense. I'm really looking forward to going deeper now that I have gotten past the threshold.
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#13 Posted : 2/23/2014 5:01:43 AM

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Global wrote:
...except it's harder to "inflate" those memories because of your lack of expectations for things that happen in hyperspace.


I'd really encourage the OP, (or anyone for that matter), to keep a journal of your experiences. Write anything and everything down as soon as you can.

Re-reading these musings later really do help "inflating" those memories into something that you can keep into the future. I've been amazed recently reading through some of the stuff that I wrote down 12 months ago. It's not that it puts you back there in hyperspace, but your recall is vastly improved - even to the point where I've remembered things I'd forgotten to write down originally.

Curating your experiences like this means you maximise your chances of keeping as much as possible.

Enjoy!

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