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Rosetta_Stoned
#1 Posted : 1/3/2014 7:27:29 PM

Gotta be deadhead chemistry...


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Man, it's so cool to have something you put so much time and effort into (i.e. an extraction) actually work!

I attempted to vape 20mg of jimjam in my bong using the instructions from "the machine" page on the wiki. I took 3 hits. First hit, I was extremely careful with the flame and kept it far from the bowl, inhaled slowly, took out the slide and breathed in deep...didn't feel much, if anything. Took a second hit, this time using q21q21's suggestion from the mini-machine and gradually moving the lighter closer. Removed slide, inhaled, tasted it this time, still didn't feel much except for a slight buzz. Third hit, just torched it in hopes that something would happen, put the bong down, and looked around. There was a slight shift in perception, less of a sense of my body, but not much in terms of visuals. Things were a little shimmery, and at some points the walls felt like they were "breathing" as they say but nothing ground breaking. Then 2 minutes later, I suddenly got hit with what I can only describe as a psychedelic truck. The best way I can describe it is like a really heavy body high from weed combined with closed eye visuals. This only lasted for like a minute though, and then I returned to the buzzy state I was in before that. About a total of 10 mins after administration I came down and started talking to my girlfriend who was sitting about what happened. I found that I was spouting ideas about perception I'd never had before, so I feel I brought something back with me, even though I didn't seem to experience that much.

So, I consider it a successful, albeit confusing attempt, and it had given me a few questions about the substance and vaping methods that I think I need answered to move much further along with this...

My first question is what exactly is the technique one should use when using a bong "machine" style? My setup is basically stainless steel scrubber (torched of course) pushed down the stem and filling the bowl. I freebased my goo (I used q21q21's tincture procedure in my extraction), scraped it up with the scrubber piece in the bowl, and tried to lightly feather it with flame to get it to melt down. I described above the methods I tried, and it felt like really none of them did the right thing. Am I missing something technique-wise or do I just need practice?

Secondly, does anyone have an explanation for why the brunt of the experience hit me all at once significantly after taking my hits? I've never read anything like that happening before, so it's kind of curious to me. I'm willing to accept whatever the substance gives me, but it's just puzzling. My hunch is that it was something to do with all the NMT that is probably in my tincture but I'm not sure. (it was not only a full spectrum extraction that I have, but it was also done with ACRB so I'm sure there's a significant amount)

Finally, should I up my dosage or just work on getting good technique and improving my 20mg effects before moving up a notch?

Thanks in advance, you all have been so helpful with all my questions so far Embarrased, I'm extremely appreciative Smile
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Reflection
#2 Posted : 1/6/2014 4:05:13 AM

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Hello,

I had a delayed reaction once before but I put that down to smoking small amounts through the day and they all caught up with me. I found it quite frightening that I was tripping harder than planned, I always get the feeling that I may get stuck in that reality. Not sure why you had a delayed reaction but hopefully I can help with your Vap'ing tek.

I have used all sorts of tools to try and vap and all have been a waste of time. I have used glass Vaporisers, home made bongs, tin foil buckets (That was the worst!!). I found the glass pipe attached below to work the best.

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What I do is place two small steel gauze circles over the bottom hole.
I then use two bigger gauze circles and make a ball.
I then rest a bigger gauze circle on top of the ball loaded with the spice/jimjam.

This is what I mean by gauze circles -

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The reason i had those layers is to prevent any spice dropping into the pipe, it also helps the spice vap having air gaps.
I use a torch lighter maybe 10 cms away from the spice and move in closer as it starts to vap/bubble and suck really hard.
I also add a small rubber hose to the end of the pipe to add distance between the torch and my face.

Hopefully that helps Thumbs up
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