Have some time off and I'm finally ready to have a go with something I'm sure will affect me.

I've ground 4 HBWR seeds, 2 T of dried mint, 2tsb of dried lemon balm and 1tsb of dried ginger root to a powder and added about 100ml of distilled water, beaten it up and put it in the fridge.
I'll stir once or twice more before bed tonight and then drink the liquid off the top tomorrow morning.
Reports as i see fit

Ate a light dinner at 7pm last night, nothing to eat since then.
Took the clear (brownish) liquid off the top of the herbs at 8:37am
9:45 light headed, attribute this to not eating today.
10:00 taken all the herbal gunk leftover with another 100ml of water
10:15 slightly spacy head feeling, minor difficulty typing
10:38 heavy limbed/headed - body stone feeling, some minor visual effect (CEV)
2:07 and i'm back - 80-90% of baseline though no way im driving HOLY SHIT

Needed some time to process this before i could write it out.

Right, as in above posts, but i did have a cup of black coffee also.


Sat reading the Nexus and felt my head getting heavier and heavier - sleepy-ish so went and lay in bed.
Got up to pee (a lot of extra urination i noticed) and closed the curtains - dark room was much nicer.

Eyes open I experienced hyper-acute vision - i could easily pick out individual strokes of paint on the ceiling. Mild OEV - green/pink/yellow glitter patches. Heard 3 instances of oscillating tone - up and then down.

Herd what i believe to be the Drone and just as it finished caught a brief glimpse of something like what others have described as the chrysanthemum - a crystalline lotus made up of purple electricity - fleeting glance.

I spent several of the next hours exploring inner worlds - there were two "me's" one doing the looking and exploration and another; the "soul me" that was observing the first "body me" and it's enjoyment and wonder.
This was particularly interesting; to be able to think in duality or either fractured individuality at will.

Crystalline version imagery of other things predominated - a wonderful coral reef experience complete with fish, though it was focusing in on the individual coral polyps that was most interesting.

Forests of fungi hyphae- viewed as if i were so small that i was walking through a vast forest of them. Beautiful translucent grey-greens, turquoise and blues.

The only other animals (than the coral reef fish) that i recall was a bed (with neat black iron head and foot boards) with a mattress made of vivid blue red black and white snakes - they were very welcoming and it was a sensual (but not sexual) pleasure to lay on them and have them slither over me - odd since I'm not familiar with or particularly comfortable with snakes.

I got up for a short while went for a walk outside in my garden and ate a few tiny bites of a plum off the tree (the most amazing food experience ever!). I noticed brighter colors (but no auras which was a little disappointing) i could and did hold lucid an in-depth conversation with my flatmate who was open to the idea of my exploration and was happy to "check I was not dead yet"
I was aware of some slurring and told her, and also managed to explain that it was not a drunken slur - my head was perfectly clean and clear - thought came easily, more so than normal, just careful word formation was a little more difficult.

Coming back inside touch become hyper acute - able to taste the acid in a tiny fragment of plum caught against my gum; not even on my tongue and the sheets of my bed felt like polarbear fur, i was a little cold (in 22c heat!) so put my electric blanket on low, and reveled in it's warmth.

In this hyper-sensory state I explored myself but was unable to 'finish' and was given a clear message (damned if i know by whom or what!) that i was too caught up in such things and needed to attend to my whole body to feel good rather than one part (since than i have been focus on diet and exercise more, and have started getting back into meditation).

One more clear vision i had was of am island/world surrounded in a bubble of scintillating opalescent transparent hexagonal tiles - viewed as if I was flying floating around the outside.

In two brief places the experience could have gone awry; on where fractals started to become skulls and another similarly dark shortly afterwards. IN both cases meditative breathing, and a mantra of 'life, love, peace, knowledge' swiftly reversed them.

Towards the end there was a brief (10min?) feeling of discomfort where i was not grounded enough to get up, but was not enjoying myself anymore, and then it stopped as if a switch had been thrown and i got up and made went about my day (In a low key way at home) I did not some thirst; ginger ale was marvelous!

I was tired as if recovering from the flu for the rest of the day, but made dinner etc. only effect post experience was the occasional feeling of "loose-neck/melty-face" this was gone completely by the next day.

Overall a very positive and enjoyable learning experience that i would be happy to replicate some time in the future, but I have no desire to do so soon.

Definitely a entheogenic sacrament (you will note i have deliberately avoided the use of the word 'trip' as i feel this cheapens the experience)

I would swear by this combo of herbs, especially since so many people say that problems with HBWR nausea wise - I hope my heavenly blues set seed for em this year so i can try the some admixtures with them to see if it will also remove their nausea (and to experience MG for the first time!)

Peace and light to you all.
FT

I never understand why people write off HBWR seeds as a worthless "legal high." Treat them right and they can show you things that nothing else can.
I find LSA to be basically indistinguishable from LSD, apart from the sedative aspect (LSD tends to be a bit speedier), and given that it grows in seeds, I find it infinitely preferable.

Blessings
~ND

Thank you Nathanial,

It was indeed an incredible experience and not at all unpleasant (as many people's experiences apparently are) - Like i say, no tummy upset, profound CEV and a healing message for me

I have nothing but a feeling of love and respect for this medicine - while I also love Lady Salvia, it is much harder to get her to recognize you

I am working on getting something with spice and light so i can try to go deeper, but in the mean time i have plenty to mull over.

Interesting report, frozenthunderbolt! I have recently been contemplating whether or not I wanted to revisit LSA at this particular time to see what else it has to offer, and this report convinced me. I will most definitely be doing further exploration in the world of naturally-occurring ergolines some time very soon!

Thank you Entheogenerator,

I would encourage you to try it with my admixture herbs to see what they have to offer if anything.
I would be delighted to hear if it changes a 'normal' LSA experience for you (assuming you have a 'normal' one!)

I may do that. I think to start with I am going to do an extraction though. I would like to know what a reasonably pure LSA experience is like, and then compare and contrast to the experiences induced by crushed seeds alone, crude extracts, seed + herb combinations, etc.

In my opinion only fresh seeds are realy psychedelic, older seeds are often also very psychoactive, but for me the effects are much more dreamy and hypnotic.

I have had just once, a really interestng experiance with those seeds. The seeds were from Morning glory Wine that I had grown. The seeds were completely fresh.
The effects that I have experianced had absolutly nothing to do with the effects of other seeds that I have tried.
It was brighter, more colourful and clearer. It was something between mescaline and psilocybine. But still completelly different.

So if I will try this entheogen again, I will grew my own Morning Glory Wines

Thanks for that observation Dreamchild.

I have 5 Morning glory var. 'Heavenly Blue' vines growing - beautiful flowers (which incidentally are edible and slightly sweet in flavour) and i have successfully germinated 1 HBWR so far out of the 6 or so planted (from the batch I have just experienced), and have just received fresh germination tested seed so will try to get several more growing.

All things being equal, I will have very fresh seeds to learn from at some point in my future

One final, speculative (and slightly disgusting) addendum.

I had the presence of mind to try out a black-light on my pee and noticed that it fluoresced beautifully for 6-8 hours after taking the HBWR.

My question: Has anyone ever saved their pee, evaporated it and then done and A/B or other tek for a second use of the Alks?

Hm... interesting. Do you know for a fact that LSA-free urine does not fluoresce?

I've never heard/read reports of this being done, but it does bring to mind the stories of people eating A. muscaria in Siberia and then drinking their urine to effectively "recycle" the active compounds... I don't see any reason why you shouldn't try!

I don't think it should be written off as worthless, but it's certainly a mixed bag. My partner and I had a nightmarish time with 10 HBWR seeds; extreme bodyload, lots of vomiting, feverish. This was after previously having had an OK at-best time with the seeds at lower doses.

If that is 10 each that is a wickedly high dose - 15 being the max recommended.
If split (5 each) that is fair enough though.

I'm given to understand that the freshness of the seed (and it's source) can also affect the experience, so perhaps change supplier? I would encourage you to have a go with my admixture as it was really very pleasant.

Fair point - just checked now - very mild luminescence, BUT i have eaten chocolate and had gin and tonic last night so alkaloids from either of these could be confounding.

I'll try and avoid anything blacklight sensitive for the next few days and test again to get back to you.

Hooray! Urine science!!

excretion experiments
and
piss procedures
on the
Wee of wonder

10 each. We had mild experiences with 5-7 seeds, but sadly adding more made it worse, like it became LSD minus all the fun parts.

Urination extrication!