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Zei
#1 Posted : 7/4/2013 2:50:42 AM

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Through just researching, not having had my first DMT trip yet (hoping to within a couple weeks, at least before the Summer is out!), I noticed that some people tend to come across the same entities or "themes" within their journey through hyperspace. Is it possible to have a shared experience with someone?

A couple examples of what I'm actually asking...

Could you meet the same entity as someone else who attempts to do the same things for both of you? Like teach you the same lesson or guide you in the same way.

Is it possible to actually meet a representation of a real life person in hyperspace? Or if you and another tripped at the same time, in the same place (like next to each other in a room), could you wind up having similar experiences? I understand it's a deeply personal experience, so I'm not imagining you would "literally" meet the other person, no matter how cool that would be, but has it happened with anyone?

Sorry if these are common or "stupid" questions, but this idea really interests me. Cause I mean, while having a pretty intense 3rd Plateau Robotrip me and my cousin, though tripping in our own right, ended up having extremely similar experiences at parts of it despite almost or complete dissociation.

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I just thought of something else! I read if you call out for help or entities you've met before they're more likely to come... what if you call out for a real person? Let's say, your mom, a best friend, lover, etc.? Nothing? I can't imagine that the intense emotions and connections with a person would not manifest in hyperspace if you asked them to.
 

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#2 Posted : 7/4/2013 4:07:48 AM

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Yes to basically all of the above.. Anything is possible

Shared experiences are utterly fascinating and fairly common when tripping with people to :]

To your EDIT- Calling out to entities or people you know has worked for me before while in hyperspace, but sometimes not. Although i'm never sure if its a super-advanced hyperspace version of that persons eternal self, just my imagination (whatever that thing is), or what! But they are always adamant that the former is the case



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#3 Posted : 7/4/2013 9:21:28 AM

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universecannon wrote:
Yes to basically all of the above.. Anything is possible

Shared experiences are utterly fascinating and fairly common when tripping with people to :]


This amazes me, actually. Would you say it has to do mainly with set and setting? It's the only thing I can think of that would affect it unless you happen to share a really deep connection with the person.

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To your EDIT- Calling out to entities or people you know has worked for me before while in hyperspace, but sometimes not. Although i'm never sure if its a super-advanced hyperspace version of that persons eternal self, just my imagination (whatever that thing is), or what! But they are always adamant that the former is the case

If it is the former that's pretty cool haha. I'm definitely gonna be trying everything I can in my first travels through the realm.
 
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#4 Posted : 7/4/2013 9:32:39 AM

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I was reading recently a DMT trip report by a woman and her bf, who had the exact same experience up to a point: they entered an Egyptian-themed temple and there were entities there. Then, the entities split them apart for the remaining of their trips. They both accounted the same experience up to that point.

Also, do a google search on mushrooms, LSD and various types of telepathy. It's pretty widely reported.
 
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#5 Posted : 7/4/2013 10:05:11 AM

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Handel wrote:
I was reading recently a DMT trip report by a woman and her bf, who had the exact same experience up to a point: they entered an Egyptian-themed temple and there were entities there. Then, the entities split them apart for the remaining of their trips. They both accounted the same experience up to that point.


Ahhh that sounds like it would be a fantastical experience.

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Also, do a google search on mushrooms, LSD and various types of telepathy. It's pretty widely reported.

I've had something like that on a moderate dose of acid; was able to communicate with my cousin without saying a word sometimes!
 
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#6 Posted : 7/4/2013 12:08:26 PM

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Zei wrote:

Is it possible to actually meet a representation of a real life person in hyperspace?


While this may be "possible" it certainly seems far from common. It has never happened to me personally after over a thousand journeys, and I don't really hear about it all too much in experience reports. Never seen any dead relatives, living ones or friends or consensual reality acquaintances. It would be ignorant for me to think that since it hasn't happened to me, it's not something that DMT does, but it does seem like it's something that it doesn't tend to do.

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I just thought of something else! I read if you call out for help or entities you've met before they're more likely to come... what if you call out for a real person? Let's say, your mom, a best friend, lover, etc.? Nothing? I can't imagine that the intense emotions and connections with a person would not manifest in hyperspace if you asked them to.


If you call out for entities, there's a chance they might come. I imagine some people are probably better at this than others, or they get "luckier" at the least. I've tried calling out for real people a couple times, never worked, and then there's what I said about real people above as well.

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Nothing? I can't imagine that the intense emotions and connections with a person would not manifest in hyperspace if you asked them to.


IME the entities very often time don't seem to care what it is you want or wish to experience. They may care little for who you wish you encounter (if you're to encounter anybody at all) or what you wish to do in hyperpsace. It's not very clear at all what determines the experience you'll have, but suffice to say that "they" seem to have an agenda of their own, and they're not easily swayed. Using DMT tends to be more of a passive experience where you let things happen to you as opposed to trying to manipulate and impose control on the experience. With a mindset like that, it becomes very difficult to access the higher, more interesting realms.
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#7 Posted : 7/5/2013 1:02:46 AM
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Shared experiences and/or telepathy via psychedelics?

... afterall, we are connected.


Many'a experiences with my closest friend of many years and my lady. Being able to connect via the fractal-esque ether that is a part of each of us. Knowing what they'll say before they say it and vice versa. Happens nearly every time. Done many experiences with mushrooms where i would have a telepathic conversation with my lady in these visionary states. Laying next to her, looking in her eyes, closing them at that moment, focusing on the connection we have, the chaotic visions clear, to a degree, and me and her, left suspended outside of time. This telepathic communication comes through thought forms that riddle with double or triple meaning, yet make so much sense at the time. Me and her 'just know' it's right.

After the comedown, we always recap what we talked about during those moments. It's startling how accurate it is.

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