Maybe maleficent is too extreme a term but I keep encountering what others call shadow beings, jesters, tricksters or the machine elves.

It seems like a common occurrence to many, I wonder what they mean? By seeing these beings is the consciousness stuck on a realm they must learn to pass? Am I not worthy of the grand eighth dimension that I get stuck playing puzzles with goofy, terrifying alien dungeon masters? Are they trying to teach me how to surpass their influence in order to have a more divine experience? Does anyone know how to surpass their power, or a way around, when it seems all encompassing? Or must I accept them as a part of this experience and just expect to have them hold power over me while I delve into this hyperspace reality?

Thank you for you input.

My thought is that these experiences are not of the divine, but just another piece to the puzzle we call reality. Many substances come from trees, does that make them divine in a similar fashion? If one natural thing is divine, they all must be. Maybe, attempt to perceive this experiences (whether it be of caring or benevolent nature) as a teaching tool with a strong focus on the spirituality it provides you with.

The entities you are meeting are not attempting to stop you from a more divine experience, because that experience fails to exist. Sure, you can always delve deeper into hyperspace, but the true "divinity" that is received from these experiences are the insights you gain and can incorporate into your everyday reality.

The only thing that is trapping you is you preconceived view on these experiences. When your ego is ripped away from you it can be very scary, but it can also be a gratifying and beneficial experience to the spiritual aspect of your life. Take the plunge and simply let go is my advice.

These entities are comparable to the friend in the group that is belligerently honest about everything, even when it is hard to face.

Make friends with these entities, they could very well possibly just be you in a different form.

Safe travels my friend.

Good vibes, Good thoughts

DMTree

Hi there

I have never done this but I believe it would work

if you meditated or performed some other practice before going in, upping your vibration and making a firm statement of intent to experience the divine, then I believe that you would indeed go past the elves?

Just a guess, could try fasting before hand for a day or doing some sort of body cleanse so your overall vibration is higher

Hope this helps

I find it more difficult to explain these experiences by differing "levels" qualified by simple characteristics such as elves. I find that no matter how "divine" or deep you get, the entities are intertwined in hyperspace. They could be present in a slightly intense experiences, building ivory towers strewn with unimaginable images, OR in an extremely intense experience where you are in a galactic network of energy where the entities crawl in and out of. The point is they seem to be present depending on the experience. The intensity or "divinity" does not automatically decide if entities will be present or not present. Therefore you can not surpass them. You can only experience them or not experience them at varying intensities.

Accept them as part of the experience and learn how to mitigate negative or bad energies. Remember - you are the master of the space and if you wish them to leave, they will. You must assert your place and take control of the experience.

One trick that always helps me when in a dire situation... Imagine a pure white beam of energy entering your head from a portal in the sky. Once it enters your body, direct it towards the negative energy. This simple trick usually cures the problem.

Remember, you are the master of the space.

that is superb, blast em with light!

Love em to death!

The best and simplest technique to deal with this kind of thing
Is to sing and chant . It's empowering and dissipates these entity
Things quickly and actually puts the trip back in your hands.
We don't have to be victims to this kind of thing . Try chanting
Next time it works .

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m..._trips_.2F_Dark_entities

hope it helps, it was written by different people after a long thread discussing this very subject

Thanks everyone for the replies, very helpful and interesting. Think I have a better understanding of what to do, especially after watching a shaman do spice. She sang and sang and sang.

From what I've been reading, there are different "layers" of hyperspace, and you are simply going into the lower levels of the etheric plane. The lower levels harbor negative entities, while the middle layers have neutral and mixtures of different entities who are simply evolved to a certain degree. Only when you take 3 or more large rips of spice do you actually propel yourself into the higher dimensions. I personally only see dark entities when I take a sub-breakthrough doses. What you also want to do is not give in to the fear they will try to instill in you. I've seen dark entities that look like this
http://bbsimg.ngfiles.co...0/ngbbs48a2ce37263d4.jpg

and I have also seen some evil clowns, and hooded beings with evil faces. From a taoist standpoint,these entities exist to play out one side of the polarity of the Self. You can't have light beings without dark entities, so don't give in to fear when you see them

Happy voyages, and remember, as Terence Mckenna always said: Take the third hit!

Cool,

thanks for the information.

I have toyed with spice a lot, I have not really shot for the end all be all of its realm except for once or twice, to try a breakthrough both were awesome and very frightening.

My most recent breakthrough began with a session of twenty mg. Then I smoked fifty mg and shot right through the roof. The standard toy geometry flew by as I fell through what felt like portals or dimensions until I exploded and my consciousness was slowly plucked until I was completely dead on every level.

Is it true that I needed to take another hit? I could not even imagine blasting further than that. Would it have been more positive and colorful if I had taken more? Or could it have made the experience even more profound / terrifying? To me it felt impossible to take anymore, I was gone very quickly. That breakthrough lasted an irregular amount of time.

I've seen all different types of entities in the same spaces. Sometimes certain entities themselves even behave with completely different polarities. Many would argue that vaporizing the entire dose in one hit propels them further than consuming the same amount in 3.

This has always been true for me, that's for sure. If I don't have the guts to take the deep plunge on the first hit, I don't breakthrough. I've sat and puffed and puffed and not gotten very far. Probably to do with tolerance.

As for the uncomfortable entities, my only advice is have some humor about them. They try to press your buttons. It's like when one guy rags on another and he gets all sad and frustrated instead of just rolling with it. Be cool.

That said, I've lost my sense of humor more times than I can count. The very most terrifying moment of my life was with DMT, and there was nothing funny about it (at the time). And I've almost died for real!

When I have hit the changa the experience is much slower and I have seen no entities. I never tried to breakthrough like I have with pure spice. I am getting the vibe that there was no way I could have lightened my experience by hitting another hit.

I would say that it depends on how much of a dose ya have on the changa for it to propel you past the "membrane." Another variable I would account for is the method of smoking. Are you putting your changa in a bowl or vaporizer? The higher of a dose you have combined with the method of smoking, and with the variables of how deep of an inhale/how long you hold it in, in my opinion, are all variables that contribute to how far you propel yourself into hyperspace.

Right, the changa was fourty percent DMT and I was loading thirty mg, vaped. Hold in until it hits. Powerful, slow and absolutely beautiful. The DMT I have had recently was a bit sandy looking and hits one like a million ton of bricks. Begins colorful but quickly gets dark. Loaded a standard breakthrough dose. Was absolutely profound but I was not expecting it to be as violent as it was. Maybe I should just go back to smoking sub hits of changa?

I try to remember the phrase 'I seek only Light, Love and Truth' - this will take you to the entities that are beneficial. Also know that on the astral planes and perhaps even beyond the chrysanthemum that the smallest beings can take on the most humungous appearance. Your dragon may be a caterpillar on an acacia tree

I don't know this to be true, but can you prove it false?

Awooga

Sorry for the reopening of a three-year-old thread but I think it's quite an important topic

I don't know, why would you like to avoid encountering Angelina Jolie there in Hyperspace?