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PupilOfPerception
#1 Posted : 1/22/2013 9:40:35 PM

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I have 1 gram of powder I would describe as follows:

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...pure Harmala Hydrochloride Alkaloids. Food-grade solvents were used in the manufacturing process.

This a full spectrum product containing major portions of Harmine & Harmaline, and minor portions of Tetrahydroharmine, Harmane, and Harmalol.

The following have been removed from the final product: Vasicine, Deoxyvasicine, Vasicinone

The final product is composed of small, needle-like crystals light tan in color. These crystals are equivalent to a 25X extract.
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Assuming my foregoing description is accurate (even in its ambiguity), what is the best way to assess the abilities of this to potentiate spice? I'll eventually use it to make changa, but what if I were to just vape some of this prior to vaping some spice? What is a good amount to test with? A friend of mine is actually going to be our guinea pig, because I'm currently taking an SSRI.

Any guidance appreciated! Thanks.
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ipumaestro
#2 Posted : 1/23/2013 6:25:56 PM

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*NOTE* you cannot smoke HCL it must be freebase (fb)... the following pretains to smoking of fb


one particular nexian who is very experienced with harmalas suggests only a few mgs! however some people use up to a full oral dose (200 mg)

for the potentiation of spice you might try 50 mg and adjust from there

personally id mix 1 g of spice with 300 mg harmalas onto 2 g leaf/herb


you can also just vape the fb harmalas on their own to get a full understanding of its effects.
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PupilOfPerception
#3 Posted : 1/23/2013 7:09:43 PM

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.


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ipumaestro wrote:
*NOTE* you cannot smoke HCL it must be freebase (fb)... the following pretains to smoking of fb

Yeah, I found that out in the chat room - I'm still trying to get my mind around basic chemistry, and the significance of the "HCL" aspect was missed by me. I've been corrected though, and appreciate it!

ipumaestro wrote:
one particular nexian who is very experienced with harmalas suggests only a few mgs! however some people use up to a full oral dose (200 mg)

for the potentiation of spice you might try 50 mg and adjust from there

It's a starting point, and that's all I was looking for, so thank you!

ipumaestro wrote:
personally id mix 1 g of spice with 300 mg harmalas onto 2 g leaf/herb

Yeah, I'm planning on doing this once I'm well past my SSRI treatment.

ipumaestro wrote:
you can also just vape the fb harmalas on their own to get a full understanding of its effects.

Gotcha - I figure a personal bioassay of this is necessary to figure things out, but I did want to get a starting point. Thanks again!
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...if you see that it is inconceivable that anything should exist, it is evident that at least one inconceivable fact is there. That is to say, that which exists is not limited to the conceivable. Since the inconceivable is there, it is impossible to set any limit to the quantity of inconceivableness which may be present in the situation. Now were the existence of anything consistently to remind you of the fact of inconceivability...it would be impossible for you to feel in the same way about the conceivable. ...if anyone were reminded about the inconceivable by the fact of existence at all constantly, he would sooner or later have the perception that there may be inconceivable considerations which are inconceivably more important than any conceivable consideration could be. ...if you do have a perception that any conceivable consideration may be utterly invalidated by some other consideration which you do not know, and if you are reminded of this perception constantly by the fact that things exist, certain modifications take place in the way you feel about things. These modifications have not taken place in the psychology of most people.
- Celia Green
 
 
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