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#1 Posted : 1/8/2013 12:08:46 AM



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Interesting intro, followed by a short piece by Terence thats not very well known

enjoy Smile



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#2 Posted : 1/8/2013 12:22:05 AM
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..thanks universecannon..i also at times have felt that i 'understood' Phillip K. Dick..he was gifted with much sight, though i see him as leaning towards the neurotic almost paranoid side of visionary gnosis..this may have been due to his reliance on 'pep' pills to write his novels in continuous 'stream of consciousness' sittings, many books written in 1-2 days!

i think his most profound and 'entheogenic' works include:
The Three Sigmata of Palmer Eldritch (1965)
..sort of like salvia d. vs. dmt in a novel..!

and then profoundly gnostic spiritual
The Divine Invasion (1977) below..>
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Yeah man, thats a nice description of stigmata lol

i think valis, stigmata, and divine invasion might be my favorites of his



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Thanks for posting this Universecannon. I just finished Valis a couple of weeks ago after seeing your recommendation in the book bin and.... WOW! I couldn't stop turning the pages. It turned my imagination/brain inside out.

Thanks for recommending "The Three Stigmata" Nen888. I greatly respect you as a person and an intellectual, so when I hear you describe a book as "salvia v DMT in a novel", I nearly get goosebumps of excitement. I'll be ordering this ASAP.
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A very good read. I've only read a few of his books so far, but I definitely get that sense of the world being an echo of other realms and forms. I'm looking forward to reading more. A friend of mine says Ubik is especially good.

Quote:
The megamacrocosmos is a system of resonances, of levels, of endlessly adumbrated fun-house reflections.

This is why I love Terrance. I can think these things but he can put them into words.
Images of broken light,
Which dance before me like a million eyes,
They call me on and on...

 
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#6 Posted : 1/8/2013 1:25:52 AM
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..hey entheogenadvocate i appreciate your work too..!Very happy

..Three Stigmata is one trippy novel..! hope you enjoy..

the first one i read which is also deep and gnostic was, of course, VALIS..
 
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The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch was one of my favorite books of all time.

I could feel the magical thinking combined with copious amounts of speed used to write it. The time travel and alternate realities really gets out there by the finale.

A Scanner Darkly was one of the best portraits of drug addiction I've ever read. Reminded me of some dark times with Ketamine in my own life. The conversations between the stoners in the book reminded me alot of my college drug buddies.

Awesome to read Terence's views of PKD. Thanks for this!
In the province of the mind what one believes to be true, either is true or becomes true within certain limits. These limits are to be found experimentally and experientially. When so found these limits turn out to be further beliefs to be transcended. In the province of the mind there are no limits. However, in the province of the body there are definite limits not to be transcended.-J.C. Lilly
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valis was a trip and A scanner darkly was a nasty look into the mirror...


I love dicks work.
blooooooOOOOOooP fzzzzzzhm KAPOW!
This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking.
Grow a plant or something and meditate on that
 
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#9 Posted : 1/14/2013 12:49:59 AM
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..a little bit on PKD in the gnosticism thread..
 
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#10 Posted : 4/7/2013 8:01:09 PM

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nen888 wrote:
..hey entheogenadvocate i appreciate your work too..!Very happy

..Three Stigmata is one trippy novel..! hope you enjoy..

the first one i read which is also deep and gnostic was, of course, VALIS..


WOAH! Surprised This book blew my mind! I had no idea I was supposed to take the following so literally:

"..sort of like salvia d. vs. dmt in a novel..!"

Anyone reading this now should read this book asap. You won't get anything else done for about 2 days, but it's more than worth it. Thanks for the recommendation nen!
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Another fan of PKD here! Thumbs up

You guys should check out 'The World Jones Made'- another classic.

Hes also written numerous short stories which form a 5 volume collection; he also tried his hand at a few non-fiction works such as 'The Man Whose Teeth Were All Alike', 'Radio Free Albemuth' and his most recent published work 'Gather Yourselves Together', made readily available only last year.

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I very much enjoyed "Ubik" but "Valis" i could not get into Sad
 
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Just found out about this author.. He is amazing!

So cynical, dark, mysterious, deep, meaningful. Man oh man!
"Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
 
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#14 Posted : 3/15/2014 2:43:13 AM

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bump.


i just read a pretty neat article about Philip K Dick.



"The Fascinating Story of the Man Who Remembered the Future"



http://humansarefree.com...ee+%28Humans+Are+Free%29
 
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#15 Posted : 3/15/2014 3:46:59 AM

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"The Exegesis of Phillip K Dick" is something I am working on now.

A lot of his ramblings about a supposed "mystical" experience he had in '74 and his thoughts on the nature of things.

I like to think that the reasoning behind the ramblings: someone gave him Faust IV and a breakthough dose and he smoked it listening to the opening track "Krautrock".
 
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#16 Posted : 3/15/2014 4:46:56 AM

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heheh. I used to make it a point of lighting up to krautrock. Is that a thing?

For good measure.. this book:




Haven't read Valis, I think I'm going to.
 
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It's definitely been a point many times in my life Very happy

Honestly, I have never smoked DMT to krautrock but seriously, I do not know why.
I only brokethrough once and I highly doubt I will do it again - but that was to Analord's "Full Series".
Lit up the dose purposefully & full of intent - hit play before I began - 26 minutes later, life changed.



Even when I listen to it now - I can remember certain points in the trip from the sound. I still can't believe it - but I know what I saw. I know that that is possible - and exponentially beyond anything I could even imagine. Shakes me up!
 
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chiptunes!

Reminds me of Dark Day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDBvynPmcNY

Krautrock showed me things, man. I once had a girlfriend sit in the car with me stoned silent for 13 minutes in the middle of the city, sure that she would hear what I heard. But she didn't get it! She did not see the light.
 
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Valis, yes! That was the book that opened me up to PKD. To that point I had only known him from the movies made from his novels: Blade Runner, Total Recall, A Scanner Darkly, Minority Report, The Adjustment Bureau, Screamers, Paycheck...

I am reading Ubik right now and enjoying it. I always find his novels a bit rambly and am not crazy about his prose, but the ideas and states he conveys are always worth the read.

I have never read The Three Stigmata, but I am going to chuck a copy in my Amazon cart. It sounds as trippy as Valis!

You know what the K stands for in his name?

KINDRED.


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