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#1 Posted : 3/3/2009 10:29:26 AM

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I have not been posting any of my recent experiences on this forum, although I feel the need to get some feedback and perspective from some of my respected fellow hyperspace explorers. There have been times when some of the beings I have met in hyperspace have hinted that I should not talk about my experiences... but at the moment I am really perplexed and would like to seek some help...

Recently It feels like my experiences have evolved onto a new level. I went through a period of quite regular journeying... with an even balance of low doasge pleasant experiences ...and high dosage amazingly cosmic, hyper-dimensional, mind-twistingly epic carnival rides filled with many riddles and epiphanic discoveries. I had begun to begin to navigate through the space somewhat... and returned regularly to the same tribe of entities or collective entity energy to commune and gain knowledge. Although it is always hard to bring back all of the information learned during a experience, I felt that even though I did not have direct conscious knowledge, on some level I was growing and gaining important lessons... and as always whenever I returned to hyperspace my previous journeys were instantly downloaded back into my consciousness, only to once again evaporate back into the ether on re-entry... There were a number of experiences that seemed directly linked to other important psychedelic initiations I had at other periods in my life... A direct continuation of an awakening and remembrance of something important....

There is so much that I would like to try and communicate based on many experiences so please forgive me if this post seems chaotic and all over the place...

For a while I have had some inklings of parallel realities. Then there were a couple of experiences that showed me the veil between these worlds... There are parallel synchronous realities that are running on a time line like our own. These realities are also moving towards a point in the future of immense change. I will not go into details about this time of change as it deserves a thread of its own. In these journeys I met some beings morphing and pushing against the membrane of the veil that were travelers just like me! What I mean is that I got the sense that they were literally conscious beings who were using DMT as an interface to travel the matrix of hyperspace to meet other beings, like me. I got the message that there was a huge battle going on in their dimension and that things were very dark there, with a hugely oppressive dark force controlled and dominating the light. However these beings were using DMT as a tool to connect to other realities... and at the very last moment before the cataclysmic time of change and ultimate domination by the forces of dark, they are going to use DMT to save and evolve their whole reality! It was the utmost divinely sacred secret that their underground of shamans were using to manifest a much better higher dimensional reality. After this experience I believed that DMT is the most preciously amazing tool that we have in this life and it must be protected and kept secret at all costs. For a long time I was totally silent about this revelation and did not speak about it at all. After a lot of deep contemplation I came to the realization that although this appeared to be a totally separate but synchronous parallel world... it was but a mirror of our own experience here and now...

so after this rather deep and perplexing enigma, I had a number of deeper experiences that all were quite enjoyable and filled with light... there were a number of journeys where I could feel my being vibrating to higher and higher frequencies until I was experiencing traveling as embodying a flat transforming geometic pattern. OOn one journey I reached a high enough vibrational frequency so that I was shunted through a number of training 'rooms'. There was intense preparation underway and at the end of it I felt like I was getting put aboard a lightship and saying goodbye to everything. A totally 'out-there' cosmic experience but very enjoyable. The trippiest thing about this experience is this: It actually occured to the side of a chill music stage at a large music festival. As I was re-entering and becoming aware of my reality again a dark skinned tribal man walked up to next to where we were sitting and started chanting in time to the chill music. He was shaking these shaker type things that kind of spun around his hand and chanting in a very deep low resonant tone in a language I did not understand. This dude was dressed in full tribal gear... feathers, grass skirt, arm bands, etc. He chanted to the music for about a minute (while I was still under the trailing remnants of the DMT) and the turned towards us bowed said thankyou and walked off! One of the most unexpected and synchronistic experiences of my life. I would like to add that the DMT during this journey was smoked with a caapi leaf mix and that there was a friend with me who also saw the tribal man chanting and confirmed for me that it was actually real.

I was getting confident that I knew how to control my experiences in the other world... too confident

This is where some of my experiences get quite serious.

There was an experience that I find very hard to translate into words. I do not believe that I have consciously brought back the majority of this puzzle but it is my first experience of the energies of hyperspace directly affecting my reality and life here in the real world.

This is the short version of this tale:

It was NYE. I was at an outdoor music festival with my soul-mate. After the new year clicked over I took advantage of an opportunity to wander back to our campsite alone to enjoy my first journey of the new year. It was a medium sized dose that should have been borderline breakthrough. I would like to add that I was on a little mdma and in a very happy and relaxed state of mind. I do not remember much of the experience other than overall it was quite pleasant, although md seems to always make it pleasant for me... There is one part that I do definitely remember.

I was in hyperspace and got the re-occuring sense that (for lack of a better description) there was some kind of struggle going on... It was an epic battle between light and dark. This is a feeling I have had a number of times and have the urge to strongly share with anyone reading this that DMT space is not all fractals and swirling geometries... there is some serious shit that goes on over there that we cannot fully understand.
So... I found my awareness perceiving a large amorphous purplish entity. I think it seemed female. This entity seemed to be sort of hollow and it appeared to have a number of smaller green/white entities living inside of it. I then perceived that the dark energies were conducting some kind of evil experiment. They were working/operating on some of the little green/white beings they had captured and manipulating what would translate as their DNA (or some fundamental structure of their makeup). I am not entirely sure what they were doing but it was not good at all. I then perceived the purple entity again and was watching as lots of the little green/white entities were entering though the purple entities mouth/womb... Suddenly the purple entity realized that something had been done to some of the other entities that were entering it and it freaked out and closed its mouth/womb. There were lots of little entities outside jumping up and down and trying to get in... suddenly the large purple entity seemed sort of sick and ejected all of the little entities that were living inside of it. This was not good at all Sad The experience pretty much ended then... although I have some recollection of a couple of simple glowing blue energies that seemed somewhat dark. This experience was not un-enjoyable at all, but was noticeably dark.. It seemed very psychedelic and it was not until I was not on mdma and a few days had passed that I linked the experience to what was to come next... - My beloved partner and soulmate had a very very bad trip (from a tiny dose of LSD) after my DMT experience. As far as I can tell the bad trip started at around the same time as my DMT trip. Basically I returned from the campsite to find her in a very badly altered state of mind... I will not burden you with all of the details... but I will say it was one of the worst experience of my life. My partner became locked into a totally delusional psychotic state and stuck in a re-occuring negative thought loop that continued, ever so slightly diminishing over about 10 hours. This peaked with her getting extremely violent and suicidal. A very horrible way to begin the new year... and something I will never forget

It was not until much later that I begun to try to draw connections between my DMT experiences and her mental state that night...

Several weeks later, after we had worked through some of the dark issues that surfaced on NYE and begin healing, we were at another outdoor music festival. She had decided to sample a small dose of 2cb to see if she was ready to manage again in a psychedelic space. I would like to quickly add that my partner is a rather experienced user of psychedelics and we have shared many amazing experiences together in the past. Once again I found an available moment to walk back to campsite alone and enjoy a solo DMT experience. It was sub-breakthrough and not serious at all... quite fun... Until my partner returned to our campsite while I was still in the middle of the experience. I will not go into any details as I find it all a bit traumatic... but suddenly she was in the same state as NYE again! in the time it took me to walk away from the dancefloor to the campsite and enjoy some DMT, she somehow was transported to exactly the same delusional psychotic state as last time! Luckily I had some close friends camping with us who helped me calm he down and confront her illusions... the whole ordeal was over sooner than last time.

But I cannot ignore the connection between my use of DMT and the triggering of this state in her... very strange...

The final part of this tale ends with an Ayahuasca experience I had a couple of evenings ago. I had acquired some strong caapi brew and decided to mix that with some rue and double the amount of DMT I used in my last journey. I was determined to get some answers to what was going on. I fasted from all food for the day and was expecting a deep and profound journey. Earlier in the day I decided to wet my feet and smoke some DMT to see if I could perhaps scout out the journey ahead. I weighed and prepared only 30mg of some very large crystals. I noticed in particular that before I launched my heart was pounding much faster and harder than usual.
(it is as if my body knew what was coming). Once I had calmed down a little I smoked the bowl and was overcome with the strength of the dose. As I held my breath I was overcome by an intense head rush that made me feel like I was going to pass out. I tried to lay back into the couch (it was outside near my veranda) but it was very uncomfortable. The last thing I remember is the trees in front of me dissolving into what looked like a melting painting. during the experience I vaguely remember lying down on the couch and feeling very uncomfortable waiting for it to end. I do not remember any imagery or anything from that journey at all. Quite strange for that size of a dose. Maybe my scales are out, or maybe the size of the crystals or purity of the DMT made it much much stronger... I dont know....

SO anyway this did phase me a little and I was going to abort the evenings aya journey, but I did a couple of I-ching readings and got the message that I should make the journey... so I summoned the courage to go ahead.

The journey itself was not very visual at all. The imagery I experienced was quite dream like and did not have much clarity. However I very much felt the presence of the caapi spirit and there were many unexplained bumps and knocks and sounds throughout the house during the whole journey.

There is one vision that I would like to share that I believe has meaning and connection to everything else. I found myself in a jungle. There were 2 tribesmen standing next to me. They said something in a tongue that I could not understand but I got the sense that they were warning me. My perception then shifted to across a clearing the where I saw a figure. It was very dark. It was oval shaped and covered in dark hair all over. There was a small space in the center where a face could have been. I felt that this entity wasn't very benevolent. It may have been a shaman in a costume? it may have been a spirit? It was familiar. It scared me. I opened my eyes to try and shake it off... and felt a presence in the room... it inhabited a large banner that I created and have on my wall... I got my partner who was sitting me to light some white sage and clear the room. which really helped (I would like to share with the reader how important sage can be to help clear energies during intense or fearful experiences).

The rest of the experience was filled with lots of deep purging. Quite intense and I know that there was some deep healing occurring. There was some very strange colored phlegm in my purge. I believe that perhaps there were some 'darts' that I may have purged.

I awoke feeling cleansed and filled with a deep respect to the power of the vine.

SO I quickly summarize all of this by saying that I am awed and humbled by the power of the tool that we have. There is so much that I do not understand. There are dark forces at play on the other side. We must all be very careful with what we are doing in hyperspace as it can have unexpected painful and damaging repercussions in the real world.

Where the fuck is the instruction manual?

Woah. If you have come this far I deeply thankyou for reading my ramblings. I would sincerely like any feedback you can offer to help me unravel the strange mysteries the spirit molecule has immersed me in.



 

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#2 Posted : 3/3/2009 4:50:36 PM

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Woah. If you have come this far I deeply thankyou for reading my ramblings. I would sincerely like any feedback you can offer to help me unravel the strange mysteries the spirit molecule has immersed me in.


As always a fascinating read Timeloop, but too short! Incredible how deep you are prepared to go.

Could it be possible that you picked up some psychic parasites and purged them? I can almost see the reductionists thinking: it's all in his head, but I take this seriously. In court witnesses are taken seriously, why not here?
This is not 'unscientific', we just need a bigger picture to fit it all in and then it makes more sense.

I hope the cleansing works out fine for you and your soulmate, cheers and thanks for writing it down!
 
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#3 Posted : 3/3/2009 5:35:34 PM

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Whoa ! I have also 'just' been trying to formulate a simple way to describe how each incarnate being MUST be a node or nexus for the overlapping of multiple Universes ! ... and you chime in with these saved-up stories ! Who needs String-Theory when you have dmt !

One of my favorites lines is:

"There was intense preparation underway and at the end of it I felt like I was getting put aboard a lightship and saying goodbye to everything..."

I am not a highly experienced traveller but I have discovered what you say here ! Very simply I find that if one can 'vibrate' with Love, you will transform every lower vibration into a higher one. From those experiences in training/healing rooms and then the 'lightship' I was in, I believe we all have a Star-Child inheritance to discover - with NO 'instruction' manual needed ! It's just a 'button' to press, in our heads and autopilot will take you UP ! Maybe I'm lucky that way, but dmt has showed me that not even death need be feared ...

And Jesus said the same, come to think; Love God, fear-not death ! ... There is one indestructible force we all possess - LOVE ! It'll wash away anything ! Break out the Love Rockets when Launching next time!

Ideas like needing an 'Instruction manual' and all dualisms such as 'good/bad' up/down might be what leads you to fear. The ego languigifies like this ... wordification - fucks with teh Truth ! Words are linked by dualisms. When tripping out becomes this kind of stuff - looped thoughts and 'bad' tripping etc ... I feel it's more a confused state than anything ominously true about the Universe. You are on an overdose of a bunch of drugs - a gudie will bring you back out to 'navigate' again UP !

Those visions of beings eating and emerging from each other - could they possibly represent something about your physical-self ..? Not meaning to pry, but I was suddenly struck by how this might be an image to heal with (who ..? you or ..!?) - a purge-me image ..!? .. an 'exorcism' going forwards and back..!?


But/and ... with kindness - I reccommend that your friend stop taking psychedelics in so highly loose and uncontrolled settings - keep us posted !
 
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#4 Posted : 3/4/2009 7:35:27 AM

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that parasite thing is what i experienced - very nice read - very nice direction. much appreciated.
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...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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#5 Posted : 3/6/2009 6:47:17 PM

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One of the potential side effects of DMT (and ketamine as well apparently) is the increased observation of synchronicity. This is the experience of two events which are causally unrelated but occur together in a meaningful way. Honestly, those occurrences that you describe have seem to have no logical connection. It seems like smoking DMT is common for you at music festivals. Just because your friend has been having psychotic breaks( you description is a perfect fit for psychosis) during her trips does not mean your smoking DMT caused this. Is this the first time you have smoked DMT while she was tripping?

The major thing I would like to point out to you, is that once a person has a psychotic break from psychedelics, it is much more likely to happen again after that. It is clear your friend has some underlying mental issues and this is what caused her psychotic break, not your simultaneous DMT experience. From reading the way you think, I doubt you will listen to me though. Im not trying to offend anyone but I think that some people on here need to be a bit more skeptical. I am open to having unique experiences but you cannot assume that what you are shown is real. For me, I say that I don't know but some of the more intense dreams I have had lead me to believe that these visions could easily be coming from our brain and not from other dimensions.

Im not saying it is impossible, in fact I am highly interested in string theory and quantum mechanics as a way to possibly explain the experience but to hold it as absolutely true is a quite a leap IMO. I would love to believe it is so but my rational mind will not allow me to do so.
 
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#6 Posted : 3/6/2009 7:58:06 PM
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I'm with the last poster on this.

Pyschedelics give the brain access to all kinds of information that is not normally being consciously processed - information from the environment and information from other parts of the brain itself. In the psychedelic trance this information becomes accessible in this compressed mythopoetic way. It's not linguistic, but it is meaningful. This is good, because only a part of a part of brain actually processes information linguistically. Some of it is processed visually, emotionally, etc.

When you run into these archetypal, translinguistic information complexes that don't normally manifest themselves in the ordinary state of consciousness, it is natural to be amazed, to try and spin them into some kind of grandiose abstract scheme that involves alternate dimensions, parallel realities and discarnate entities (to "pour language over them", as McKenna says). But you must always remember that this information comes through you, through your brain's interpretive scheme, and from the people and the environment around you.

In this vein, when you start observing synchronicities, when you start to feel that something immediately meaningful is being expressed to you in the psychedelic trance, I would like to warn against trying to make it all abstract and far out and metaphysical, especially when other people are involved. Try and translate this information into real events and scenarios in your daily life.

Chances are, if your partner is consistently having bad trips, some kind of latent unprocessed material is coming out of her subconscious and is being expressed to her in the psychedelic state. Chances are that this material is directly related to her life, to real events and processes that are taking place right now. If you are yourself experiencing trips that seem somehow connected to her bad trips, chances are that your brain has also picked up on this information, and is also trying to process it. Chances are, if you try and process this material in this abstract metaphysical way that involves hostile entities from other realities invading your life, you will miss the point of what's really happening and make it worse, especially if you try to force this interpretive scheme on her own experience.

Always remember: Psychedelics are not about the "out there", they are about the "here and now", but they express information to you in a strange and unfamiliar way, and about levels of the "here and now" that you are not normally competent to think about.

I am not any kind of shaman, psychoanalyst or expert of any sort, and this is all just my own interpretive scheme, of course. Still I feel that this kind of thinking ought to at least provide a good balance to some of the excess mysticism that you see from people who go deep enough.
 
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#7 Posted : 3/6/2009 8:53:35 PM

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I am with Delta on this. Psychedelics amplify, in orders of magnitude, each neurological event, whether external stimuli or internal un-, sub- or concsious thought, memory what have you. The brain stores so much more information and processing power than we are capable of 'experiencing' at a given moment, that to dismiss this fact as the FIRST cause of 'synchronicity','coincidence' or meaningful juxtaposition is an error in deductive, discriminating reason.

The mystical exists. There is no doubt in my mind. I believe states of concsiousness exist that allow experience to transcend the ordinary. I do not even discount your story. But let us not put the carriage before the horse. Reserve judgement as long as possible. Wait for patterns to emerge. One event does not a pattern make, nor does two. Three times and plausability goes up, but be careful that you are not making it happen.

I am not saying that mystical, transcendant events do not occur to those who are not looking for them, but I know that those who go on witch hunts find witches. The 'truth' lies somewhere in between. It always does.
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...On another note; you seem like a damn decent fellow. The care you seem to have for your girlfriend is touching. Just don't blame yourself. That guilt could be damaging in hyperspace.
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Okay. I am done. Rant over. Don't want to sound like too much of an ass.
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#8 Posted : 3/6/2009 8:56:07 PM

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Extremely articulate and sober responses, Delta, Psychodelerium and Jason. I'm with you 100%.

Just because the voyage exists in your brain and not in an objective alternate dimension, doesn't make it any the less astounding - in fact, some would say quite the contrary. That your brain is capable of processing information in such a hyper-complex and utterly foreign manner is nothing short of amazing. Does it really have to be a trip to the 11th dimension just because it's incomprehensible? Is the place you go of lesser value if it's within and not outside of you? The experience is beautiful, extraordinary, impossible (or so it appears, both when inside and in the cold light of reason). How cool in that it is also a product of one's own brain and imagination?

There is waaaay too much blind acceptance of the mystical amongst the initiated around here. I think many of us tend to sell ourselves short in this particular regard, and isn't this really the aim of psychedelic use in general - to shock your consciousness into seeing reality on a previously unconsidered level? To challenge accepted paradigms and grow through their reconstruction? Take pride and pleasure in your mind's ability to create such an awesome tapestry. It is you who are the architect of whatever space you travel to.

Nobody knows anything for certain; myself included, of course. But to blindly give in to the unequivocal belief that you hit the pipe, leave your body and travel to alternate physical spaces is just looking for easy answers. To tie it in to someone else's psychotic breaks is irresponsible and dangerous.

No disrespect intended here. Your girlfriend might want to consider a hiatus from psychedelics.
 
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#9 Posted : 3/7/2009 1:02:06 AM

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Resonating DEEPLY with the last 4 posts. there's nothing i can really add, as these monkeys are so damn articulate and groovy they covered it beyond completely. my two cents i WOULD like to add is in re: to your girlfriend. Art's suggestion is a sound one. a bit of time to contemplate and convalesce would be my recommendation as well.....along with perhaps trying some focussed one on one work in a quiet, safe space when the time comes. every time i would get to the parts of your tale where "i was on the side of a stage at a big festival..." my butthole literally clenched shut with terror. maybe it's just SWIM....but that sounds fugging HORRIBLE! ....yowlza!

as for the meat of your tale- SWIM has long dispensed with asking for anything from the spice (or the aya)....he has decided that the only relevant, important thing for him to do in preparation is to get his set and setting STRAIGHT! deep work on himself outside of hyperspace (therapy, great friends, reading, studying) has gifted him with an incredibly sound, soulful disposition that has enabled him to journey many many times now without one single bad, dark, scary sojourn. if he feels even remotely funky....or "has questions/wants answers", he is coming from a place of ego....not where you want to come from when you are going to a place of "no-ego". in these cases he simply aborts. for SWIM, it's all about remembering who the teacher is and who the student is. if there's ANY blurriness it's not worth it.

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#10 Posted : 3/7/2009 3:07:00 AM

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im with antrocles: everyone else has highlighted everything I could think of and said it all very eloquently indeed.

The only thing I would throw into the mix is this:
perhaps, as i've known my trippin' buddy and soulmate, the bad trips were caused simply by you leaving to go voyage on your own. If she doesn't take dmt, or would prefer that you trip with her instead. I don't want to add any to your guilt because you obviously feel responsible for this, but I would suggest that you both take a break from psychedelics.

that being said, and contrary to antrocles, I would love to smoke DMT at a festival =D credit to you. You're obviously a far out explorer...

but remember, You also create your own reality. You'll have to excuse me if im not able to highlight exactly how, but you could have a read of conversations with god, neale donald walsch, it illustrates exactly how.

and also, dude

remember even if you really beleive these entities, and you *really* think that some seriously bad shit is happening in hyperspace and its all going to end by 2012 - shouldn't you be living for the moment? enjoying that frappachino, hitting the movies, dancing like no one is watching, etc

instead of making the fate of the universe *your* responsibility?

nuff said, thankyou so much for sharing. It made for a really juicy bit of reading Smile
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#11 Posted : 3/8/2009 12:49:20 AM

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I am deeply humbled and greatful for the wise and articulate responses you have all shared. It has definitely reopened many avenues of thought that I have been choosing not to travel. My perceived connection between my girlfriends psychosis and my own DMT journeys is hazy at best. I can see that the cause of these episodes has been some underlying mental issues that have unfortunately recently manifested in quite a negative manner. I would like to share that since this occurred she has taken a total break from all drugs and I am in the process of working through both professional and holistic healing with her. She seems much better. Even though I have been quite shaken up about this whole series of events (and I am currently taking a break from all psychedelics at the moment while i navigate this transitional flux) I know that I will reflect back on all of this as an important but painful learning experience. It is always the hardest and most intense psychedelic experiences that seem to have the deepest and longest lasting meaning.

I still cannot shake the inkling that some of the experiences I have had do occur in higher-dimensional space with conscious entities that are not manifested out of my own psyche... I cannot also shake the feeling that there is an epic battle raging over there and there are some dark forces at play... this is somehow linked to 2012... I also believe that there may have been some parasites that I purged while on aya.... There is a part of me that believes it is all real... But... I am not really a very cosmic person and I was a total atheist until I began my shamanic initiation and was shown some things... Also please dont get me wrong about all of this... about 99% of all my psychedelic experiences had been absolutely amazing and full of light... it just seems that at the moment I feel the need to communicate about some of the darker ones... I feel that attempting to unravel this mystery by bouncing 'ideas' around with respected peers at the nexus has definitely given me some perspective and helped me integrate.

It is very hard to ignore the sobering and intelligent responses above. Based around some of my psychedelic experiences prior to discovering DMT I was very open to concepts like multi-dimensions, time travel, telepathy and psychkinesis. DMT seemed to add a whole new depth and meaning to these types of thoughts. But at the end of the day how can I prove that any of my experiences exist anywhere outside of my own consciousness? As much as I would like to, I cannot...

Respect to you all... you have given me much to ponder...
 
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Good decision to take a break, take the time to digest all this.

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There is waaaay too much blind acceptance of the mystical amongst the initiated around here.

I never meant to encourage blind belief in the entities etc... far from it! I take the elves seriously but if they would tell me to save the world I'd take that with a BIG grain of salt...

Personally I'm convinced nothing will happen in 2012 except some big changes in economy, ecology and society, processes that have started already.
Even if this armageddon scenario would be objectively real, what to do about it? Become a new messiah, warn and save the human race? That's a recipe for serious psychosis Pleased
 
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#13 Posted : 3/8/2009 5:23:31 PM

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remember even if you really beleive these entities, and you *really* think that some seriously bad shit is happening in hyperspace and its all going to end by 2012 - shouldn't you be living for the moment? enjoying that frappachino, hitting the movies, dancing like no one is watching, etc

instead of making the fate of the universe *your* responsibility?


ya what that odd blue thingy with all the eyes was saying


thing will get more confusing
and fell like there going out of control
and you fell like your going crazy
and the presser builds
and there is nowhere to go but crazy

its all a controll issue
You'd better be prepared for the jump into hyperspace. It's unpleasantly like being drunk."

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shoe
#14 Posted : 3/8/2009 10:22:58 PM

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tryptographer wrote:
Good decision to take a break, take the time to digest all this.
Personally I'm convinced nothing will happen in 2012 except some big changes in economy, ecology and society, processes that have started already.


oh, nothing much then Pleased


Also: Islandhome lol, You mean me? hehe. I have no idea what her name is Razz
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