I don't usually post journey experiences on forums but this message i just recieved needs to be given to others. SWIM made some beautiful organic spice. My intention was simply to smoke as much as i could so that i would be better able to help others to navigate in hyperspace. SWIM likes to share. I don't remember any travel but all of a sudden i popped into this world and was on their ground so that i could look up at them but also i felt i could pop out and travel elsewhere to other places beyond the bubble which we call existance. These insectaziod looking beings were checking me out when another one came over and asked the beings around me "what is it? or Who is it?"The others whom i percieved to be guarding (not necessarlily protecting) me, a smaller greener one answered this one is hurt, i immedietly knew they were referring to the fact that sometimes i can't see in hyperspace, i can percieve things, i can even percieve colors but i can not always see them. it is like a shadow falls over my pinial gland sometimes, but thats another story. The taller cylindracle one came over and looked down at me. The others around me felt scared or nervous. I thought i must protect myself so he doesn't know.... something. i then saw i had a grid around me as protection. i then left them by popping out and then all this information about navigating these realms was downloaded to my mind i say downloaded b/c it seemed instant and there was a lot of information:
There is a possiblity of bringing stuff back with us. We don't want to do that! We must be careful follow proper porcedure and method, take pains to protect ourselves. Also that anything here that is infused with life, even a house plant can help us to not only go there but to return in safety. there are things out there that could cause havoc here in this reality. Also there are powerful humans that know and study this to use to their advantage , some of these humans are government people whose job it is is to guard this exit point from humanity and keep it for themselves. But most important the message was that we must protect ourselves and others by not bringing anything back with us. We are especially vulnerable right now because we are on the edge of a jump in consiousness and there are entities who would simply like to experience a biological existance and others who would like to take what we have at this unique time The space between realities is getting thinnner all the time while more and more of us are traveling - we must take extra caution.
I was completely at ease during the entire experience and did not have any fear. I had my dog with me. i don't know how long it lasted. It seemed like 10 minutes but was definity less than 30. As a side note, or maybe not, after when i opened my eyes i could see the plant in my room breathing and then the ceiling moving, shifting and all kinds of shapes were discernable from Ganesh, to a 1000 armed dakini woman, to the planet earth and giant mantid like faces. Maybe that was the smoke that drifted up there - i don't know.
This is completely fictional, of course...

SWIM had the God-Self realization trip the other night for his first break-through. SWIM has been changed by this experience, as I am sure SWIY has been also. Here is my brief post about it if your interested: http://www.dmt-nexus.me/....aspx?g=posts&t=3835

SWIM doesn't even know how to take it. It basically made more sense than anything SWIM have ever felt. It was like waking up from a dream, being free.

I'd love to hear about your experience.

cosmic, care to elaborate? I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. What do you mean by bring something back with us? How would one bring something back, and how would one avoid it? Also not understanding your reference to the house plant. And what is "popping out"? I don't know how long it has been since your experience but maybe you could come back a bit later and provide some more lucid details

What kind of things could we bring back with us? And what do you mean by "They want to experience a biological life?"

Also, this sounds like bullshit newage metaphysics mumbo jumbo.

Sorry this is off topic and just a observation not good or bad but I can not stop from commenting on your avatar Faust. looks just like the new Pres. here in the US. Ha
Cheers.
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MagikVenom.......Check out Alex Grey on Google. His art is epic and and psychedelic to the Nth degree. That is in fact a portrait of Obama. It is the strangest piece he has done in my opinion. It is unlike most of his other work. Also check out Luke Brown.. Your avatar is great, by the way.

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why do you think its the strangest? Its no different, just has a really world cultural theme.

thats interesting cosmic serpent..SWIM has had near identical experiences..every aspect that you speak of

Cosmic-

You clearly know one of two things:

1. You are insanely beyond my realm of comprehension.
2. You have lost your faculties of reason.

Secondly, you can

a. Write
b. Not Write.

Makes us hard for us to judge. You have a post count of 1. So, hello. But why would you expect any of us to have gone down such a personal worm hole with you? Very few of us agree much about "hyperspace".

Not trying to be mean, correct me if I am wrong,
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This comment is not directed at anyone specific, its just a general observation. Why are people in this forum (who have supposed experience with altered states) so dismissive of others experiences? If you have truly been out "there" then you must at least realize that reality is not as it appears on the surface.As far as these experiences being just in your head,well, everything you perceive is in your head.Your eyes,ears,nose,mouth and skin are all organs that collect info and send it to your brain where it is processed.Its ALL in the brain.And we do not understand much about the brain and mind. We all know this, right? So why be so negative when it comes to something that seems far out. Sure its good to have a healthy bit of scepticism but dont automaticaly rule something out just because it dosnt fit your paradigm.
I have seen so much of this dismissiveness here that I wanted to say something.If people are so sure that these experiences are are just useless bullshit then why are you here on this forum, and why would you continue to use these substances? Im just curious really.Id like to know why there are so many nay sayers on a site like this.All opinions are valid and im not saying you shouldnt be able to post them but what the hell,these dismissive replies are not going to help the true explorers on there trips into the unknown.

i agree with you pinche..just because it cant be proven..doesnt mean its any less real..i think its healthy to consider the possibility that it could be real..and also realize that it may not be 'real' that place or this one..accept both as possibilities and you accept the whole of reality

yea i wonder what he really thinks of obama. Cause you know a bunch of people are gonna buy that.. its a money making thing IMO.

I think Alex Grey knows the govt & the pres. is bullshitt, but everyone else is making money off it why not him?

but yea that piece came unexpected. i wanted to see something more trippy come from him after being so long from seeing any new work..

right on jork.

@pinche: I wasn't writing off anyone's ideas... I was just trying to understand what he was talking about (still unclear on that). Also, the question of whether or not the things seen/experienced during a dmt trip are relevant and/or worthwhile to our every day life experiences is one I have been grappling with as of late.

@modsquad: Alex Grey actually paints more than you probably realize, its just most of them aren't really publicized much. I've seen him paint quite a few live paintings at his entheocentric salons before CoSM closed its doors, and there will be plenty more to come once it reopens in wappinger falls.

With all due respect, who here has the intention of judging the posts/experiences of others? Additionally, what relevance does number of posts have to anything contained here within our community? Finally, one may benefit from speaking entirely for oneself. Simply a few mere observations. . .

Moracca, I definitely was not referring to you or anyone in particular. Everyone has the right to think and say whatever they want on here.No offense to Faust but the comment about "bullshit new age mumbo jumbo" or something is what prompted my reply. I have seen a lot of that attitude on this forum and I just dont get why someone would bother with this stuff if they feel that way. If you approach entheogens with a totally scientific mind set then your missing the point,IMO. These things open your mind to the infinite and bringing your programmed monkey mind/ego along greatly narrows the possibilities.( Not you Faust,just in general )
I really didnt want to single anyone out because I dont actually know any of you. Its just the general dismissive attitude that some have. I dont post a lot on here because I dont want to have to hear how its all bullshit and unscientific.I get enough of that from average people.I come here to chat with people of like mind who want to explore all the possibilities, not reduce them to our limited science.
Jorkest your tha shit.

you have a brother in SWIM pinche! and yes...Jorkest is "tha shit". don't let the haters bring you down brother....there is DEFINITELY a solid community of us living in the wonder with love and gratitude in our hearts. feel free to read SWIM's latest experience he just posted....you'll see!

love and gratitude!

yes its true sometimes people dismiss the more open interpretations but also sometimes people dismiss the scientific ones, judging the whole of the scientific method by the mistakes that arise from it's negative use and understanding.

in a thread about the ayahuasca forum, people were voicing their opinions on that community, and The Traveler mentioned how he things that the aya forums are like the spiritual side and the nexus is the scientific side. This is quite true in some sense, as there are many scientists and rational people among us. But I would say that in most cases they are of the very open minded type that dont dismiss somebody's experience, but only argue their own interpretation to things.

I think when people thoughtfully argue their points from whichever side may it be, it is always a learning experience. Nobody of us has a clue in the end, right?

I personally think its important to have a skeptic/scientific side wherever we go, just as its important to go deep into something and experience with all of oneself. Its as if the skepticism is a rope and the experiences are caves. Going down without the rope, we get stuck in one part of the whole cave complex and dont see that there is more to it. Not going down and just staying on top with the rope we miss out on all the amazing things that happen down there. So we gotta go in and experience but climb out and think "should I believe this literally? What other possibilities can I think of that make sense?".

Dennis Mckenna said in some talk about how we shouldnt blindly believe/trust what anybody says, media, our teachers, our friends, our parents, ourselves or even the entheogens. We gotta always try to contextualize, be critical and also pragmatic about things.

So pinche, please do post more your experiences. I can assure you that interesting subjects can stir quite some unusually deep and respectful discussions between very intelligent members from many different types and opinions. And as you see in Jorkest, you can be sure there are many others around that you will deeply resonate with. Its quite a community

Nice post endlessness, very fair.I dont mean to dismiss science at all. Through science I have learned about my mind and body and how certain substances will effect me.And yeah I think Traveler is right forums.ayahuasca is more spirit oriented but not as lively as this forum.And really the point of my rant was to actually hear from someone totally on the scientific, its all make beleive side and get an explanation as to why they would bother with this forum and these substances.But now I dont care,there is room for us all.This is a great forum with some great people and thats what matters.Thank you all.