I thought we could use a general info thread for kanna, because info on Erowid is thin

1. What dosages are required for threshold, common and strong experiences?
2. What should one expect from these experiences?
3. What health concerns are there if any? (Contraindications etc)
4. Any other useful info

SWIM has some kanna which he has tried sublingually a few times, and while it produces a slight feelgood sensation, there were no significant effects (can't remember the dosage, but he increased it until he had much more than he had been advised and he felt like he had an impractical amount in his mouth).
He has also tried as a tea made from 2g, of which he drank half, but effects were hidden by the couple of beers he'd already drunk. He hears this is wasteful but he doesn't like having a mouthful of twigs (he has an eye on the nasal spray thread though, that looks interesting).
He even tried snorting it, which again produced slight effects. The guy who got a rush from it in the Erowid reports says he snorted about 1g, which doesn't sound like an appealing task.
SWIM thinks that either this Maya stuff is bunk, or kanna is weak, or doesn't affect him too much.

Ive just recently got into kanna and I think its great.

When I first tried it, it was from maya too, I swallowed a gram a day for like four days and didnt notice anything, or it could have been placebo, I have read reports of it taking a few weeks for effects then it gets stronger. Some of those days though I was drinking cacao and some cacao extract so I couldnt be sure as to what was doing what.

I gave up on the kanna and it sat for a month or two then I noticed lorax talking about it and he reccomended snorting 50mg up each nostril for effects, I thought great sounds good but didnt bother trying it. Then one night me and my brother were a bit drunk and I noticed it on my table. We both snorted 100mg and it was very noticable. Think its very synergestic with things. Its a great party drug, goes great with alcohol. It can be subtle though.

I tried chewing some shredded leaves but didnt get anything from it, khats much better if your up for a good chew

Im currently waiting on 50g and plan to try the nasal spray, just trying to get some ethanol, which is a bit of a pain to get hold of, ive found so far.

For me at the moment I just enjoy snorting it when im drinking alcohol, occasionally snort it when im straight, which can be good too but not as noticable. Tops wed snort in an evening wouldnt even be a gram id imagine, and the stuff we had was from maya, stuff im waiting on is from south africa on ebay so heres hoping its good qality

Id like to hear any progress you have with it as im really enjoying it, and im looking forward to the trying the nasal spray, would love a source for ethanol.

EDIT: and a known chemist on another forum said it is not an ssri! All the vendors usually say "suspected"

SWIM is interested in it because the very slight feeling he gets is nice (even though it's so small that it could be placebo!), and he'd love to have that feeling x10 as a more sociable alternative to alcohol.

Haha this thread died a death.

Anyway, SWIM looked up the dosage advice he was given. He was told 50mg of powdered kanna sublingually at first, but you need 200+mg once you build tolerance. And if you take it orally, you need 2g+, so that's pretty wasteful.

So swim doesn't get why when he exceeds these amounts, still he can barely notice it... the effect is similar to if someone just told you you were handsome or something. He can make himself happier on his own without having a mouthful of twigs... but he's bought some more in case it was just a bad batch.

Does anyone have any tips on growing kanna? He's tempted to buy some seeds.