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Rotter
#1 Posted : 7/29/2012 11:35:31 PM
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Hi there.

I am using Spice for quite a few years, every now and then..
It always worked out great for me, with all the optical hallucinations, colors, etc...
I was always smoking aroungd 50 mg
But in the last months, i seem to have lost the ability to get opticals. (even when closing my eyes. (i see nothing but black).
i tried a lot of different smoking versions, like my VaporGenie, sandwiching in a normal pipe, sandwhich in a bong, using my machine..... I do not get any optics anymore..
I started to rise the amount up to 175 mg, and even tried to put some caapi 10x to it..
Nothing...
I get this amazing body feeling, (lying relaxed and feel the DMT, but what ever i do, the optical visions are not appearing..??
first i thought it was the spice, but after my friends all say, its fantastic, and i tried at least 10 different versions of Spice (from white chrystal, to light yellow powder, dark, yellow powder, i tried JimJam, and Jungle as well...
NO OPTICS!!!!

Whats wrong with me?
as far as i know, there is nearly no tolerance to it..
Does somebody has the same experiences, or could let me know if you can get immune against it??

My colleagues think i'm crazy, when vaping a 100 mg in only 1 toke.
After exhaling i was sitting thre, having a normal conversation with them..???
So does anybody has any advice for this?
 

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Mel Angel
#2 Posted : 7/29/2012 11:47:17 PM
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Make any changes in diet or start taking supplements or medication?
 
DMT777
#3 Posted : 7/29/2012 11:55:14 PM

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I recently went through a 6 month period where i could not breakthrough and had barley any to no visuals at all. I have no clue what caused it but the past month i have broke through a couple of times and have visuals almost every time now. It all seemed to comeback after smoking some spice at the peak of a dxm trip.

Taking a break may help, it didn't really do much for me however. And if you haven't yet try mediating before smoking or try dmt on-top of another psychedelic.
 
Mel Angel
#4 Posted : 7/30/2012 2:29:43 AM
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DMT CEV'S can be manipulated and controlled by keeping the setting, time, place, and sounds the same. I have the same CEV'S if I smoke in my room, with the windows open during early evening. I turn on loud fans to drown out background noise. The only music I will even listen to is binaural beats and sounds when I do listen...anything else makes me freak out and wake up mid trip.
Lyrical music is incoherent and intelligible with white spice.

If I don't get a large enough hit, or just don't smoke too much fast enough I get OEV's more or less. The CEV'S are two dimensional, flat and dim; meaning dark and hard to see. Complete darkness also can make the visions darker. I usually
Ike a little light but not too much. The last time, when I overdosed on white spice, which many brave Nexians love to do; from what I remember...the visions were completely different and manifested into distinct life forms and alien machines that look like the movement on a very sophisticated expensive time piece. Usually with a controlled hit and dose I see a badass wormhole that takes me through a galactic roller coaster ride, which is the way I want it for now. Too much makes me forget I smoked and makes me think I'm dead. Since my freak out I just grip my 5 gram vile of white spice while using; it may be why things have been better.

 
 
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