kinda long sorry! but please help!




So for the longest time now I have been wanting to break through on dmt. Multiple times I have extracted my own freebase crystals, and that waxy dmt acetate extracted using orange oil. Also I have tried other people's who have tried to blast me off. So far no success, and recently I am starting to feel like it will never happen.

I have tried 25mg,50mg,75mg,125,150,200mg recently I used about 100mg of some beautiful white crystals mixed with changa I had already made. It never looked so good!

Here is my latest trip report.

Setting: Bathroom, pitch black with blankets and pillows lying in my tub listening to a very peaceful solar quest song.

*also had a really close friend as a sitter outside the bathroom just incase I called for help. So I felt very Safe.

mindset: I was ready. I am not scared, and welcomed it with no doubts letting go and smiling. I also did about 20 minutes of meditating before hand so I was completely relaxed.

experience: I take my first hit, then my second (definitively coming in fast I feel it immediately) then my third hit, my fourth hit(why am I still here) I still just see blackness, but that lovely smell of dmt is everywhere now and I can barely hold the bowl. I hit it maybe 3 or 4 more times and I finally start getting some visuals. I could vaguely see patterns like Egyptian or something. I was still aware of my body and the bathroom, still able to move my foot and such. I felt like I was in a cathedral or something, but it was just soo...vague, I couldn't really see anything. No colors, just slight strands of light forming shapes that I could barely see. After I realized it wasn't going anywhere I was quick to hit the bowl again...and again to the point where I had to put it down. and just kinda of watch those patterns. I was suprised there was soooo much left and I have hit it constantly...eventually I just got up and turned on the lights. I felt amazing and yes i noticed things looked different and were breathing and such, but for the most part the same.


I tried once more in a room that had dim lights so I could still see. Same thing happened, except this time I felt like the message was getting to me that it did not want me to experience dmt breakthrough by a short 10 minute smoke, but instead through ayahuasca. Is it this maybe?


I have given some of the same batch to my girlfriend and she broke through crying of happiness, flying through a jungle full of color and love with all sorts of animals, swimming in the ocean underwater with the fish and traveling with lions for what she felt as 5 lifetimes of her own. She cryed and cryed of pure love she smiled and was telling me about how everything was soooo beautiful. And she only took 3 hits...I am so happy she had such an amazing experience but why am I left in the dark? with vague shapes I can't really see and no color or anything.




I ask for help, any advice ? I am not sure what to do I know not to burn and torch the dmt of course. I have tried using a vapor genie as well a bong, and a bowl. I feel like I have tried everything. I feel that now maybe I should just skip smoking and go straight to ayahuasca? any advice helps


Thanks for reading.

My swim has kind of same problem. When he started breakthroughs where coming every second time if not more often. He used to take it couple of time a week for about one month. Then at some point he get scared by trip itself - there were obstacles preventing him to free himself - unpredicted sounds from outside, worries in the head, etc. They were here from the start, they just didn't play the role probably. Now he is making effort to free himself, organize place, meditate, what he didn't do before spice. Just like you described... and still it doesn't work.

There is another doubt. First extractions contained some crystals but they were very little amount. Now he improved his tek but gets white powder, no crystals. So there is worry about quality of the product itself.

Your able to take 8 hits? Something is wrong here. When your GF doses how exactly does it happen, does she light it herself? How much is she taking? How long are you holding it in?

I can only think of two things, either you are doing something wrong with your technique.

OR, you have an extremely high tolerance. In which case I would try building a vapobong with a crack pipe, and take it in ONE single hit and hold it until you cant hold your breathe any longer.

Try an have your GF light it for you maybe she is doing something that you arent. Or have you already looked into this? I am not trying to assume you dont know what your doing, I just like to approach things in a scientific manner rather than saying the DMT doesnt want you to smoke it, but rather drink it. It seems more plausible that you may have a natural tolerance, or maybe you are taking something the negates DMT, none that I know of.

have you tried adding an MAOI into the mix? if you do make sure you know what drug interactions to avoid to stay safe.

I don't think its the quality of the spice although its a possibility. I have tried spices from different sources. And yes I was able to take 8 hits :/ I knew something was wrong too, which was depressing when I realize im not going anywhere and that im wasting my spice and with my gf I actually lit it for her, by the fourth time I put the bowl near her mouth she was already gone. The only difference between her and I, is that she did not know much about dmt and I kinda surprised her with it last minute. She also has never done any psychedelics before. I do hold it in for about 6-10 seconds each hit, but there were also times where I held it in for almost 20 seconds and then coughing like hell giving me a headache. I don't see how I could have a high tolerance? I don't really do any psychedelics anymore. Maybe some mescaline 2 or 3 times a year. or lucy when she comes by once every 6 months. I don't even smoke weed anymore these days! I just find this all so upsetting I have never used an MAOI because of my diet, but maybe I should? get like some syrian rue seeds before I smoke? And also fast for a day? I also heard of "the machine" Maybe I should use it + MAOI with a better tek for spice lol. Who knows, strange this is so hard for me, my astral projection/lucid dreaming practices are a lot more intense. But I know there is more to dmt then what I am getting at right now.

Thanks for the advice hopefully I will figure this out. Any specific tek I should use over another? I was using 69rons d-limo tek and I also tried q21q21 tek 2 trying to avoid lye.

If you do decide to use MAOI make sure you know ALL the dangers and be very careful.

Tolerance doesn't always have anything to do with it due to using too much. Some people it just takes more. I would be more apt to think you may have a slight tolerance to DMT but your smoking methods must also be flawed.

We're you using a lighter or a torch with the vapor genie? And with the bong were you doing a sandwhich method or were you using changa?

Your kind of unclear "exactly" what your using. I think it would be safe to say you are doing it wrong man. The vapor genie should work well with a torch. I know a lot of ppl on here suggest NOT using a lighter as its inefficient and too variable with its heat.

Anarchy is right be very careful with MAOI's, they interact with almost everything, anything you take will be far more potent. If you are on any medications at all, be sure you look up interactions, some can be fatal or land you in the hospital.

Are you saying you used 100mg of DMT mixed in the changa, or 100mg of changa? 100mg of DMT is quite a lot, but i've also completely wasted 60mg before by burning/melting it and not properly vaping it, with the GVG and a proper vape you can go much further with 20mg then 60mg improperly vaped any day. If the smell of DMT is everywhere, are you wasting a lot of the smoke? Are you holding it in until you barely have any smoke come out when you exhale? (GVG helps for this because you can see if your actually in taking smoke)

Im just going to add this .... My advice is to approach this spiritually, say a prayer before your trip, do a sage blessing before you enter hyperspace, and create a sacred space for your journeys. This helps to enter the DMT hyperspace with a wonderful mindset and I truly believe it helps the experience! And some Changa made at 50% with acetone and a small bong never fails me!! This method takes technique out of the equation, and if you wanted to you could make a 60%+ blend! FYI creating a sacred space is as easy as saying a few specific prayers which can easily be found online.