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staresatwalls
#1 Posted : 5/26/2012 10:35:59 AM

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so recently i've been fiddling with acacia confusa and syrian rue. i've been eating about 3 grams of rue and waiting 45 minutes and gulping the confusa tea; only after balling up the sediment with rice flour and eating it. but i seem to purge before the majority of the alkaloids can get into my system and thus wasting my time. i'm thinking about brewing the rue and acacia separately and just boiling them down to a goo and balling it up with brown rice flour and just eating it.

i read here

https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=4119

that capping the goo (the kind made in that post) made a very similar experience to drank ayahuasca. i wouldn't even be using gel caps. so i guess my question is what are your thoughts on boiling down acacia c. and rue separately and eating the resulting goos? because the liquid seems to make me purge too early.

p.s. i'll probably up the dose to 4.5 tbsp's to account for the slower absorption in my gut

any thoughts and or ideas would be much appreciated. much love
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#2 Posted : 5/26/2012 2:31:35 PM

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Dont swallow rue, rather make a tea with it or extract it. Also you can try eating ginger and/or taking essential lemon oil, since they both have a 5-HT3 antagonist which diminishes nausea
 
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#3 Posted : 5/26/2012 2:38:36 PM

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pepto bismol works really well, ive used it multiple times and always had a huge decrease in nausea. 2 tablets of the pink stuff really helps.
 
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#4 Posted : 5/26/2012 9:48:23 PM

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Kambogahuasca Panacea wrote:
Enzymes should help especially, I would think. Maybe I will try as an experiment and let you know. You mean putting the goo into balls and just swallowing, correct? Instead of powdering the goo? Yes I had the same thought but figure that adding several enzymes will make up the difference.



yes

@endless what about extracting in that i would make a tea and boil THAT down and make a goo?

@evil804 do you take pepto right after you take the aya?

thanks for the input guys
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#5 Posted : 5/26/2012 9:49:14 PM

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oh and kambogahuasca panacea. what do you mean by enzymes?
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#6 Posted : 6/15/2012 6:35:39 PM

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I used the same method you speak of recently with my last cactus experience. Even used rice flour like you said. It worked really well. Not sure about doing this with the materials you speak of though as I have no experience there.
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#7 Posted : 6/15/2012 8:04:54 PM

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^^^^^
Cactus causes much less nausea for me anyway... Not so much tannins?

Ive never done work with a confusa but my experience with jurema leads me to think a resin might be worse than just drinking the decoction
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