My first experience with the sage was years ago at a music festival, I was drinking heavily
and on a good dose of lsd.It was the late 90's and I met up with a few friends I had'nt
seen since high school.Due to the heavy drinking and lack of sleep my memory of the
weekend is spotty.

About the same time I started to peak on the lsd my friend pulled out the salvia extract
and we started smoking.To my surprise the salvia overpowered or enhanced my peaking lsd trip.
From the parts I remember it was enjoyable .(I had never heard of salvia at the time)


Well fast forward to tonight and I had my first experience since (completely sober this time).
I had a rough Intro to DMT due to me underestimating the power of it,not making that mistake again .

I got some 20X extract and have micro dosed 3 bongs tonight.(1) the first one was very small and resulted in a nice body buzz and mild hallucinations and a sense of well being for an hour or 2.

The second dose was a lil different I did two small pipes the second time. The first pipe
i got gave a nice feeling and mild hallucinations.Right away I decide to do another low dose and I went right to the threshold,if I would have smoke even a lil more I would have been trippin hard.

The strangest part was my eyes felt like they were getting really big and creepy looking,
I started to get some anxiety but started coming down soon after.


All and all an enjoyable time and I would like to thank gibran2 for the salvia dosing thread it really helped.

Peace all

Part 2 the next Day


I started off with two similar small doses as before with the same results.

A few minutes later I decided to see what a salvia trip was really like so
I took as much as I had smoked in the last two doses at once.(I dont have a mg scale
yet so not sure how much)

This did the trick as reality started rolling in on itself not really folding as I
had read in other reports.But it was like everything took a sort of tubular barrel
shapes and they were rolling against each other.I was feeling weird like my house
was a sort of reality prison and had to get out.

Luckily I was able to see well enough to get outside and I made a B-line for a shady spot on the lawn.
Once I laid down I felt a lil better about getting out of the house.But I had alot of similar feelings
that I got from some of my DMT trips.I always seem to get the feeling that I have broken my illusion of
reality and was failing my purpose here on earth or in the physical reality by doing so.What I mean by this
is I am not supposed to know the true nature of reality or even myself.

I also could feel an unseen entity who was relaying these messages to me.The weirdest part was the sense of
deja vu.It felt like this has happened to me a million times and that I am some how eternal,like I may or may
not be god.

I didnt time the experience or keep my eyes closed but from my estimation it didnt last long.


Naysayers can say what they want about these substances but I belive them to be truely spiritual when used properly.

Part 3 Breakthrough

I had been micro dosing a few times this evening and it was enjoyable mostly.A friend was coming over to watch a
movie so I was'nt planning on tripping.We began watching the movie and she offered me a xanax and I took it.

After the movie I was feeling good and relaxed and decided to try a few micro doses.I normally use alone but I was
feeling good so I decided it would be ok.I took two or three hits over an hour and everything was going well.

Then I decided to try a slightly larger dose and as soon as I let it out I said "oh s**t".She became concerned and
asked if I was ok, I tried my best to say I was fine and please leave me be.

All of reality took on a gray and white checkered skin and turned into 6 pillars some moving up and some down.It
was uncomfortable watching and feeling this.I then slid into a lying down position on the floor and closed my eyes.
The feeling went away and I can only guess that I was instantly transported to a dark checkered room with a female
being.I say instant because I can't remember dying or leaving my body.

My ears had a strange ringing sound and I was having a hard time looking directly at her for some reason(she was directly in front of me).I heard "welcome back" and started getting the deja-vu feeling again, I said "This is
reality isnt it?" she said yes.

I realized I had this conversation before and started asking her "not to tell me anything" and "send me back I
wont come back here" she said "yes you will".There was nothing scary about this,other than I did not want to be enlightened with the information I knew she was going to give me. I wanted to live in the ignorant bliss I had in the past.

good reading, thank you for sharing my friend. do you know how big your breakthrough dose was ?

Agree, well written reports. It makes me want to explore more this mysterious substance.

Thanks, I have been using very small doses I wish I had a scale. I have been using a pocketknife and just putting a small bump on the end,on my breakthrough dose I put two small bumps and smoked out of my small bong.

I can see why people are getting bad trips this stuff really is powerful.I am guessing I will get 20-30 doses out of a gram.I could'nt imagine smoking a quarter gram at once.


One other thing I have noticed on my breakthroughs is a synthetic smell and taste,it is distinct and I have experienced it on DMT as well.I think I have seen it mentioned in other threads.

I am nearing the end of my gram mabey one or two doses left and just had a real mindbender.
I have been slowly using larger doses until I hit the sweet spot and just exceded it a bit.
I just did a fairly large hit of 20X extract and was hit very fast.

I was lying in a nearby field in the dark looking at the moon and hit the pipe,it came on so fast I had
no time to prepare or even think.Before I realized what was happening the earth around me was curling up around me and turned a striped red and yellow color that was quickly starting to swallow me.It felt like I had this happen before lots of times and reasoned I had died again.I always seem to get the feeling I am in the afterlife during breakthroughs.

When I rolled over in the opposite direction to try to get a glimpse of normal reality some very large light beings,
the largest ones I had ever seen ripped a hole in the sky and earth and spoke to me.I mean these beings were larger than the earth it was pretty shocking to me.

They spoke to me as if we had known each other very well and I was not frightened just really confused.They said
things like this would keep happening to me if I continued to enter these realms.That I wanted to come and live like this on earth and by looking for answers using these substances it
was going to continue to be like this.I have had other experiences where I was asked "what are you doing here?You have been shown everything already",I always ask to have it explained again and forget it all everytime.I dont take these messages to heart because I dont know much of anything let alone everything.

When it started to wear off I rolled on my stomach on the grass and large slabs of sods and
earth would curl up under and around me and tell me things and spoke to me by name and seemed pleasant.They said things like "don't forget" and "now you remember".

My main salvia insights are things like "this isnt real,and reality is like a game".
One of the most interesting insights this week is the thought that we may already be living in "heaven" or are "living in a form of afterlife already".Or we are in some sort of simulation like the matrix but not imprisioned but here on our own free will.

I would be terribly disappointed if I ever learned everything there is to know because I
am a curious person and enjoy the mystery of hyperspace and life in general.

From the way they spoke to me and the feeling I got from them, it sounds like this isnt the first life I had and
not the first time I had messed it all up.It felt very familiar.

I would be surprised if it lasted 5 min.

Some good experiences you had there.

I myself am stuck to using some 5x for some mild trips and 10x to get to breakthrough experiences. My one time using 20x was too intense. I can't remember anything of it, like i passed out or something, even though my friends told me i had my eyes open and was looking like normal all the way through. I don't remember exhaling the smoke, all i remember is that at some point (my friends told me it was after about 4 minutes) that i was staring at something which after about 10 seconds unraveled itself to be my friends legs and then everything started to slowly fade in again.. And i asked what just happened and they said "you probably just tripped balls".

10x seems to give me the right amount to actually remember parts of it even though it is so weird an indescribable..

Also i heard of this inverted tolerance that you seem to develop for salvia, as in if you smoke a couple of times during a week you seem to need less and less to experience the same. As if your body adapts to more efficiently absorb the salvinorin-A.

My first time I was with a friend sitting in a park. I don't know how much I smoked, but I think it was a 20x extract. As I was inhaling from the pipe the noise from a party at a nearby house turned into a male voice saying something I couldn't understand/don't remember. The pipe started to be some kind of vehicle that was carrying me through a tunnel which was made up of the edges of my vision. I felt very heavy, and was forced to lie down. As I was lying down, I sensed a mat made of multicolored hexagons about 8 inches in diameter rolling over my body. It was a very strange feeling and as soon as it started to roll over my neck I panicked and sat up again, and that was where the trip ended. Now I would let it happen, but at that stage in my development I wasn't used to such intense experiences. The whole thing probably took around 2 minutes.

Since then I've only smoked salvia three(?) times, in smaller amounts and to varying effect. Honestly, I'm not a huge fan. It makes me feel very cold, physically and mentally. I would like to try a larger dose again though, as there always seems to be something beckoning to me from the other side.