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DMTerrestrial
#1 Posted : 12/9/2011 7:49:20 AM

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So SWIM is completing their first DMT extraction tomorrow! SWIM's reading about Jungle Spice and is intrigued. My question is how long can SWIM save their basified solution? Will it ever go bad? Should SWIM keep it out of heat or light?

As of now SWIM doesn't have the solvents needed to get the J-Spice. Maybe in a week or two. I hope SWIM can save their solution until then.

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#2 Posted : 12/9/2011 7:55:26 AM

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Couple things:

It can be saved indefinitely as long as it's not in a HDPE#2 jug because they will leak. This has been reported numerous times. A couple weeks ought to be fine but a couple months is a different story.
If it's kept in glass you gotta be careful of it etching and shattering, so keep the glass in a container just in case this ever happens saving you The Purple Caustic Nightmare.

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#3 Posted : 12/9/2011 10:17:34 AM

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good morning DMTerrestrial, i hope you are well

i kept my first few mixs, in jars, for a month or 2 before pulling the jungle spice and it was all fine, i think yours will be ok untill you get your solvents. Maybe just have a check for mould or anything else that looks abnormal.

Following ۩'s tips is probably a good idea, my jars never broke but if i had known they might i would have stored them in a safer place.
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#4 Posted : 12/9/2011 10:32:27 AM

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So is the stuff I saved in HDPE jugs for a couple of months no good now? Was hoping to give it a couple of pulls with some Limonene...
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#5 Posted : 12/9/2011 11:12:06 AM

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if it hasnt leaked then i would guess its fine, but i know nothing of the jug in question.
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#6 Posted : 12/9/2011 11:59:47 AM

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Just a standard hdpe2 milk jug...
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#7 Posted : 12/9/2011 12:11:21 PM

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has it leaked?
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#8 Posted : 12/9/2011 5:12:34 PM

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nope, all ship shape, I'm gonna run some Limo through them soon, will let you know how it goes!
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#9 Posted : 12/9/2011 8:31:16 PM

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Sir Ben of zyme stated something fairly recently about storing the basified purp juice could lead to more n-oxide. I guess that is ok since your going after it with limo.
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#10 Posted : 12/10/2011 11:59:19 PM

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۩ wrote:
Couple things:

It can be saved indefinitely as long as it's not in a HDPE#2 jug because they will leak. This has been reported numerous times. A couple weeks ought to be fine but a couple months is a different story. If it's kept in glass you gotta be careful of it etching and shattering, so keep the glass in a container just in case this ever happens saving you The Purple Caustic Nightmare

Oh, and have I ever told you how much I love your avatar? Very Hyperspatial.


۩, thank you very much for the great information. What type of material will not decompose, or should I just keep transfering it into new jugs every 3 weeks? Will my solution become contaminated w/ plastic over time?

Also thanks for the compliment on my avatar. I usually have an Alex Grey piece of art, but when I was selecting this felt just right in the moment.

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good morning DMTerrestrial, i hope you are well

i kept my first few mixs, in jars, for a month or 2 before pulling the jungle spice and it was all fine, i think yours will be ok untill you get your solvents. Maybe just have a check for mould or anything else that looks abnormal.

Following ۩'s tips is probably a good idea, my jars never broke but if i had known they might i would have stored them in a safer place.


Good call on checking for mold! Thank you 3rdI

Madcap wrote:
Sir Ben of zyme stated something fairly recently about storing the basified purp juice could lead to more n-oxide. I guess that is ok since your going after it with limo.


n-oxide, is that a psychoactive or something you don't want?

Thank you all, that has pointed me in the perfect direction! Peace & much love!


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#11 Posted : 5/20/2012 3:35:32 PM
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I've saved basified MHRB juice for over a year - just added all old extraction juices together, let sit in the garage & forgot about them. I still managed to pull some form of jungle spice.
The longer they sit the more the base wears away at the MHRB soup and frees up other alkaloids, but its a different experience, probably for that reason - things being pulled that wouldn't've been there to be pulled in the 1st week & because of n-oxides forming.

I think too the longer you leave it the less likely you are to get solid useable jungle spice, as a few people have reported getting oils or waxy red/orange from old MHRB juice.

Some relevant threads:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=12329
https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=5025
 
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#12 Posted : 5/21/2012 1:26:54 PM

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Longest I've kept some for was 3 months, it still pulled very potent yellow oily goo (xylene pulled), that made AMAZING changa. Gosh I do love my jim-jam.
I'm actually planning on leaving my current STB for a month or 2 to pull similar yellow goo with xylene. I'm no scientists, but I think the longer the bark is left to sit, the more goodies get broken down/released into the solution (I may be completely wrong, but I like the idea)

I'd say anything over 6 months might prove to pull weaker stuff (too miuch breaking down etc...) but again me no scientist, so I dunno. Most of my ideas come from too much daydreaming while stoned.

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#13 Posted : 5/21/2012 2:52:30 PM

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Purges wrote:
nope, all ship shape, I'm gonna run some Limo through them soon, will let you know how it goes!

You may want to FASA and then clean the fumarates with anhydrous acetone to clean up any plastic compounds that leeched into your basified mixture from the jug...
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