I read many reports, did my first extraction 3 months ago and guess what?

There is nothing and I mean NOTHING that can prepare you for this!

I just had my first breakthrough (you really know when you have one, there's NO DOUBT about that) 15 minutes ago...what a rocket launch (I did it with a sort of big crackpipe-like vaporizer)

I don't know where to begin...I did it in my room at my desk. I was totally, and i mean totally, somewhere else. I didn't exist anymore, I was one with the music (emma shapplin, carmine meo) and it was a little bit scary sometimes because I just could not know when I would come back. Next time maybe I will have a sitter.

There were so many things going on I couldn't really focus but there were presences, that was very clear to me...It's a different world, that's for sure...

There is ONE THING everybody should take in account: don't just do it when you have little time or in a hurry and I know it's a cliché but: SET and SETTING is SO important! I made that fault, I did not have patience anymore to wait for that. Nonetheless it was a damn fast rollercoaster!!

I'm sorry for the weak report but I'm still in awe...this is not normal anymore...next time I'll make sure that set setting are perfect so that I can integrate more and give this forum an experience report that it deserves!

Oh yeah...RESPECT THE SPICE!!

The Spice will change you. It opens your eyes to things that are beyond our understanding.

The Spice will teach you things that humanity is not ready to accept!

Welcome to the exclusive CLUB HYPERSPACE. You can check your coat with the mulitdimensional octopusbird in the corner.

Thanks for the reply Acolon, it is indeed a very exclusive club...

Maybe it is a good thing to be in an exclusive club, maybe not...

DMT is not for everyone...

if you don't respect the spice, it will kick your ass until you do respect it
it is also the furthest you can get from a 'recreational' activity.
with proper set and setting it will open the communication between mind body and infinity. it's important to listen to yourself in these states, as noone knows more about your current state of being than you.

Very true Xantus. It is not at all recreational.

It matters not if you believe the spice-space is another dimension, universe, or simply deep recesses of your subconcious, it takes you to a very special place that few people have been to.

Swim belives at a lower dose spice can be reacreational the peace and tranquility Swim has after even a lower dose is nicew.

What's your definition of 'recreational'?
For me, to experience the spiritual dimensions of life, is something good, and therefore i experience it as more pleasant than many things, most people call 'recreational'. For others, just killing time and thus, NOT experiencing any dimension of life, is something good and pleasant. So for me, alcohol is not something i consider recreational but DMT is, and for others it's the other way round.
It thus depends on whether you like to experience the deeper meaning of things, even if this is confronting and maybe a bit scary.

Ah, that is a good point. To me a recreational substance is one that does not good very deep psycologically. It is something that opens one up socially, or at least opens one up to the physical as opposed to the spiritual. When I say DMT is not recreational, it means that I don't think it is going to catch on as a party "drug"

DMT is a substance that I use for spiritual growth not recreation. I am sure that it CAN be used in a recreational way by some people, but my guess is that they are in the minority. It is just too intense.

Amen...

I have never seen anything particularly spiritual about DMT. I've never felt I've ever learned much from it either. Despite the fact that I am an avid seeker outter and learner of things. I have always considered DMT as one of my most favourite forms of recreation. It is recreation in a very pure and unsullied form.

Also, I do not in any way agree, that DMT is too intense. I think its ideal, any less and I probably wouldn't be that interested in it in the first place.

The word "Recreation" needs our scrutiny, To my mind, "Recreation" does not and should not necessarily have to imply disrespect. Using DMT disrespectfully, I would agree is sinfull. But to use DMT as a recreational tool, in the same way one could use a football or a TV, makes DMT a guilt free pleasure.

Recreational for me means just for the fun of it.
I do not use DMT just for the fun of it. I think it's more because I'm curious about the nature of reality or realities. I like to explore my mind and what's beyond there. And it's defenetely not all fun. There are dark and scary places there too.

Magic:
Trust me on this one.....there is a VERY spiritual side to the spice. SWIM has had full blown enlightenment experiences.....total God realization and found the keys to the nature of Reality. It don't get much more spiritual than that. And I know there are several others on the Nexus that have had similar "God-Like" experiences. Swim's life was forever permanently changed from these voyages. Wow. Still in awe a year later.

Yes well I met God and I thought he was a cunt.

I did not meet God.....I realized that I WAS AND AM GOD. (and so are all of you and everything that reality consists of) Far from a joking matter.

DMT hasn't made me a better, more enlightned or in any way wiser person. Quite the contrary, it has blocked me from the truth and light, somehow like it warps your thoughts and taints your thinking with bad things, not fully possesion but something like it, you have to fight it.

I was a much more spiritual person before DMT than I was after. It drains you of your lifeforce in someway so when your back your much lower energetically/spiritually or what have you than you were before, theres an afterglow but after that wears off you are worse off, more distant from the source somehow.

DMT shows you things, but it also taints your soul or mind in some way, I beleive it's some kind of pale simulacrum of the true divine but it's actually evil coated as good to trick you deeply. Why such temptation, extravagence, indulgence and lust? And that's not even the trully bad stuff, why the the strange powerful hytnotic magic, horrid alien intusions, shapeshifting into vampiric spiders and strange hobgoblins and the enticement?

Somehow I feel a person has true spiritual potential and certain ways to go about strengthening that potential but stuff like DMT or even any of the other psychs tamper and fuck with you spiritual potential, like short circuiting some important spiritual/astral component of your being and you thinking 'wow i'm out of my body and seeing/interacting with all this cool stuff’ but what you've really done is splashed some water on your spiritual circutry and now it's glitching/flickering oh and by chance you also changed to a random channel(dimension) and got to see something.

Theres things in the universe/multiverse that do NOT care about you one bit just as we humans don’t care about experimenting with mice and do all sorts of twisted shit to them. When you take DMT and distort/ amplify / boost or break certain spiritual mechanisms inside of you, you may be lucky and encounter to some extent benign beings or by chance you may fall in manevolent beings clutches. When your there you are at their total command, possession and mercy.

I now know why most Shamans take this stuff very seriously and have all those rattles and songs and whatever. They use that stuff to navigate and protect themselves against the evil beings in those places or bargain with them on some level,they know this shit is no game. I read a quote from somewhere that losing ones body is no real big deal but losing or damaging your soul is the truly scary thing. Just hope I haven't fucked mine up too much.

If anyone does a search on Litrium's posts- you'll find he's on a major spice negative RANT for a long time now. Any negative experiences are coming from YOUR OWN MIND Litrium. I would not trade my enlightenment experiences for the winning Powerball ticket.....not even a year later. I guess one man's treasure is another man's trash.....but Litrium- don't hang around here like a born again christian outside a bar preaching to us about how the alien insectoids are going to rob our eternal soul! Please.

Help me out here guys- Infinite? You still around?

Even though I am against people spreading poison, litrium's post is just another opinion and no matter how much I disagree with him I have to respect his/her viewpoint.

And while the majority of people here take dmt as a sacrament, a forum is not complete without opinions of a different nature, like litrium's for example.

There is nothing at all poisonous about Litrium's posttings. His posttings have created various interesting disscusions on this board. That his views on DMT are differant from ours is of no consequence. My views on DMT are, it seams, way differant from yours BoyPony.

Some people can drink alcohol but others should not. It's the same with all drugs. And DMT is definitely not for everyone.

Well said!

I for one question the validity of the experience every time I do it. Maybe I am removing filters that otherwise prevent me from making contact with the 'unseen', gain knowledge from the divine and create direct links to god?

Or,

.. perhaps I'm simply ingesting a substance that shifts my imagination into overdrive, produces the kind of mind-states normally relegated to REM sleep, and fries my brain into the bargain?

Who knows!

More to the point, do I need to know? :-)