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#1 Posted : 12/30/2010 8:45:03 PM

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HI to everyone Very happy

I'm not sure about how to start and if here is the right place Rolling eyes



SOXLHET

I've had based on this to make the mine.




The solvent evaporates and saturates the air.
At the top it condenses and flows into the internal jug.
The level rises in the internal jug until the top of the siphon, swamping the sample and extracting the solute.
All the solvent of the internal jug is drained to the bottom of the soxhlet.








stewpot 01

stewpot 02:


condenser 01

condenser 02

condenser 03:


internal jug 01

internal jug 02

internal jug 03

internal jug 04:

Perhaps you prefer to use a PET bottle.

internal jug 05

You can estimate how much solvent passed through the sample by the amount ice melted.
If the aluminum foil is very thin double it, but don't let failures and balloons.



MIMOSA


75g of mimosa sleep one night in the alcohol.
bed:


After 8,5 liter of ice melted in the condenser:

in the shell

kept on fire until all the alcohol evaporate 1*
and then added water:



Added white egg and kept at rest for 4 hour. The intention was to hold part of the tannins.
Again heated to form this:


And the drink:




I was not planning to extracting DMT, just wanted to make an ayahoasca. I would continue doing a MAOI juice and drinking.

What is the best tek to go from 1*?
when the alcohol evaporates completely left a red goo. Would a good idea use a drytek?
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#2 Posted : 12/30/2010 9:12:39 PM

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Cool man!

Yes, you could probably basify with calcium hydroxide(pickling lime), and pull with warm naptha or another solvent, like in Q21Q21's tek. I dont see why it wouldnt work..
 
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#3 Posted : 12/31/2010 11:25:07 AM

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Good work bro, I like the creative improvised constructions! That kind of effort is definitely appreciated Smile

BUT.. isnt it a dangerous idea to use open fire like that with flammable solvents like ethanol?! maybe an electric hotplate would be a much better idea...

I would like more input from others regarding how soluble dmt in its natural salt form in mimosa is in alcohol. Maybe basifying and then drying the mimosa before soxhlet-ing it would make for better yields, what do others think?
 
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#4 Posted : 12/31/2010 10:47:55 PM

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Very cool! But I'm with endlessness here, I wouldn't use and open flame with flammable solvents. Some gases are denser than air and could end up being ignited by the open flame.

Maybe I'm not understanding the goal of this, but wouldn't it be easier/simpler to boil the plant material in the solvent with constant agitation for a long time, and then filtrating?
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divetrue
#5 Posted : 1/1/2011 12:09:31 AM

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Produces hashoil too:
pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4, pic5.




Quote:
isnt it a dangerous idea to use open fire like that with flammable solvents like ethanol?!

Yes.
While you're cooking isn't so dangerous. The stewpot is locked, the steam don't skip.
The aluminum foil work like a diaphragm.You can see it going up and down as the pressure changes and you can control it by fire power.

If you kept it on fire towards evaporate the alcohol the steam can fly to the flame and start a bonfire. If you are still alive can cover the pan to stop to burning.

You can use something like a pressure cooker with a serpentine plug on the exhaust valve. The solvent will condenses in the worm pipe and you can retrieve it.



Estimating how much solvent condenses

You can't look inside the soxhlet during the extraction. So you have to estimate what are happening.

Supposes the alcohol vapor condense and drips athwart the aluminum foil cooling from boiling point to 40ºC.
Code:
1 liter of alcohol are 0.789 kilos
condense 0.789kg of alcohol gives 675kj
cool 0.789kg of alcohol from 80ºC to 40ºC gives 0.789*2520*40 = 79531.2kj
total = 80206.2kj


The ice melts and then the water heats from 0ºC to 40ºC. How much mass is needed to get 80200kj?
Code:

80200 = m*4200*40 + m*334
m = 0.47kg

so if you melts 5 liters of ice and keep the water above the condenser at 40ºC you'll have passed throught the sample 10 liters of alcohol.




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but wouldn't it be easier/simpler to boil the plant material in the solvent with constant agitation for a long time, and then filtrating?

Sure, very more simple. But sometimes i don't have all the necessary solvent or it's too expensive Crying or very sad
This time i used only 1.5l of alcohol and 8.5l of ice. The soxhlet recycled the solvent making available virtually 17l of solvent.
The internal jug have 0.75l, so was 22,5 small baths. If all the soxhletting take 4 hour than each baths lasted like 10 minutes.
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