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I have made three different changa / enhanced leaf blends, one of which is Pau D'arco. I find with this one that it is difficult to get the bowl to "cherry" and I am often left with a small amount of gooy spice at the bottom of the bowl after a couple of hits. This means I dont get the full dose I measured. One of the other two is enhanced caapi leaf, calea and blue lotus. It cherries with a single lick of the lighter, and the whole dose burns to ash in one long hit. I can breakthrough on as little as 20mg with this, but it takes more like 30-35 with the D'arco. My question is, is there any way to salvage the spice in the D'arco mix, and re-use it in a new blend? If I re-soak it in IPA and fish out the majority of the D'arco, will I be losing most of the spice, or will it migrate back into the IPA, as it is not as absorbent as other herbs. Has anyone ever attempted this and has a method I could use? Oh great - the world has just been replaced by elf machinery. Sic transit gloria mundi
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Ive never tried this, but there should be no reason for it not to work, a possible second soak should get all the goodies out. If you find that you cant pull all the spice then just enhance the Pau again and keep it for a rainy day  Let us know how it goes.
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Posts: 531 Joined: 22-May-2010 Last visit: 08-Sep-2019
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Salvaging may be possible, but pau d'arco is such a nice herb to work with... You could just mix blends together. Calea and pau work wonderfully together in my experience.
Also, a dash of non-infused peppermint on a packed blend will make cherrying of any herb a very simple matter.
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Eden wrote:Salvaging may be possible, but pau d'arco is such a nice herb to work with... You could just mix blends together. Calea and pau work wonderfully together in my experience.
Also, a dash of non-infused peppermint on a packed blend will make cherrying of any herb a very simple matter. Thanks gamma and Eden. I might try and mix the D'arco and other mix together. Out of interest, how fine do you chop the D'arco? Mine is about as fine as I could do it with a pair of sharp nail scissors, I am sure one of those electric weed grinders could have done a better job though. Could the D'arco pieces not being small enough be part of the problem? Oh great - the world has just been replaced by elf machinery. Sic transit gloria mundi
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Size could possibly be the issue...I usually just break the pieces small enough to fit in the pipe...no bigger than 1cm. Really though, bark is simply a pain to burn...it is specifically resistant to cherrying. Good evolution, trees. 
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Eden wrote:Size could possibly be the issue...I usually just break the pieces small enough to fit in the pipe...no bigger than 1cm. Really though, bark is simply a pain to burn...it is specifically resistant to cherrying. Good evolution, trees.  haha, I suppose you're right, I didn't think about it like that! Mine is finer than that, the biggest is prob 3mm. I'll have a think about which option to use to solve the problem and report back if I find anything of note. Oh great - the world has just been replaced by elf machinery. Sic transit gloria mundi
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Posts: 112 Joined: 13-Aug-2009 Last visit: 06-Nov-2010 Location: South Africa, Mossel Bay
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I would say dry some peppermint to a crisp, and blend 50/50 with the pau d'arco. Maybe even blend it to a weaker mix, which you can put in a deep bowled tobacco pipe and pass around for a communal journey. Might be nice for on top of a mush trip or something.
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