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Difference between fumarate/acetate and freebase dosage Options
 
ragabr
#1 Posted : 8/16/2010 12:26:14 AM

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SWIM has been drinking aya on the weekends, and recently started using extracted DMT as her light. The first two journeys, she dissolved ~35mgs of DMT-freebase in lemon juice. The first journey was strong on the aya side and the second journey weak on the aya side.

Last night, she returned to a strong level for the aya and tried out ~45mgs of a mix of DMT-fumarate and DMT-acetate (she tried each salting from a BLAB). The aya aspect came on strong, but the light felt much weaker than either of the previous journeys with extracted DMT.

She dosed in the same time frame as always, and jump started the digestive process with a few pieces of fruit after drinking, as usual.

Any ideas of why the DMT would feel significantly weaker at this dose? The fumarate and acetate should be a bit heavier, but SWIM didn't think it would be to this degree.

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KwisatzHaderach
#2 Posted : 9/13/2010 6:27:45 PM

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Hello!

Well real quick, one thing that jumped in my head that may help. I do remember reading this on the dmt-nexus.me/wiki pages about DMT Fumarate:

"It is 76% as potent as freebase DMT, so you’ll need 31% more to achieve the same effectiveness. This means a 20 mg dose of freebase DMT is equivalent to 26 mg of DMT fumarate (requiring 31% more)."

This could be why ~45mgs of DMT-fumarate mixture didn't feel as strong as 35g of Freebase. Hope this helps!

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ragabr
#3 Posted : 9/13/2010 7:51:13 PM

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Awesome, thanks so much! This will help alot, as she tried another 35mg freebase dose and it took her about as far into hyperspace as she could ever need to know, but now has more fumarate than freebase was hoping to make the transition. Now I can do the math for her and everything should work out well! *fingers crossed*
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