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TrustLoveMan
#1 Posted : 7/30/2010 12:09:10 PM

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I'm still about a month away from being able to extract some more DMT but before then I'm going to learn all about Haramalas and thier inhibitiing properties. Everyone seems to like flowing visions so I'm going to order from there. I've made this list of items that costs about $96 and I don't know if flowing visions charges for shipping.


Caapi Copy - 1 gram of Banisteriopsis Caapi pure alkaloids
32.49
Harmine and Harmaline freebase (1 gram) 95% pure extracted from Peganum harmala
15.99
Harmine freebase (1 gram) 95% pure - All the caapi glow without the plant!
23.80
10% off! Harmaline freebase (1 gram) 95% pure extracted from Peganum harmala (Syrian rue)
14.57
Tetrahydroharmine HCl 200 mg 90-95% pure (THH) All the caapi glow without the plant!
8.99

I'm probably going to remove a few items but I'm wondering what you guys think I should start with? I'm interested in smoking and sublingual dosing. Also, I have mullien leaf, sodium carbonate and a bit of calcium hydroxide if those do anything in combo. I want to get aquianted with these maoi's so I can combine them with DMT for the first time. Hopefully, this will help me break through easier.Twisted Evil
Any advice is greatly appreciated. At the moment, I'm thinking of either getting the caapi copy and harmaline freebase mix OR the seperate harmalas in freebase form.
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#2 Posted : 7/30/2010 2:02:08 PM

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I’d say all you really need for sublingual use is Caapi Copy and THH.

For sublingual use, very little is needed. I use between 10-15mg about 20 minutes prior to vaporizing. Doing this slows the experience down a bit (also lengthens it a bit, but not much) lengthens the comedown period significantly, and changes the character of the experience. (My first deep “spiritual” experience was pre-dosed with Caapi Copy.)

Good luck!

Also, 10-15mg of sublingual Caapi Copy by itself is very pleasant. Very relaxing and calming.
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#3 Posted : 7/30/2010 2:48:59 PM

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I'd just get some rue and do a manske, then by 1g of THH. That way you get all the harmine and harmaline you could need for a fraction of the price and just order in the THH.

That's just me talking though. I love masnke action and I'm poor Smile
 
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#4 Posted : 7/30/2010 5:29:29 PM

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TrustLoveMan wrote:
Caapi Copy - 1 gram of Banisteriopsis Caapi pure alkaloids.................................................................$32.49
Harmine and Harmaline freebase (1 gram) 95% pure extracted from Peganum harmala.....................$15.99
Harmine freebase (1 gram) 95% pure - All the caapi glow without the plant!......................................$23.80
10% off! Harmaline freebase (1 gram) 95% pure extracted from Peganum harmala (Syrian rue)........$14.57
Tetrahydroharmine HCl 200 mg 90-95% pure (THH) All the caapi glow without the plant!...................$8.99

Extracting your own................................................................................................................Priceless

There are some substances that extracts can't get; for harmala alkaloids there's Manske (for rue) or CL's Tek (for caapi)

And there's whiterasta's tek, but i'll post a link once Gir posts the new pictorial. Rue is so cheap, the extracting so simple and the yields so large I see no reason to ever buy Harmine or Harmaline. THH, maybe, but caapi extracts are nice and with the reduction of harmine being reviewed and tested...I just don't see the need to shell out the $$$$. I guess if you don't have the time...
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#5 Posted : 7/30/2010 5:45:41 PM

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Caapi copy is a nice and beautiful classic and very convenient.

Personally I would order more THH, this stuff is pure magic (although more expensive)

Maybe remove the harmine/harmaline mix. This can be easily done by extracting peganum by yourself.

Ordering harmaline is cheap and you won't regret it. This can be used in small quantities to add to some other harmala mixes.

 
TrustLoveMan
#6 Posted : 7/31/2010 3:16:50 AM

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I would do an extraction but I like getting lab grade chems. I also have the option of ordering some caapi leaF and smoking it in changa. I want to get at least c. copy and thh. I want to make an order tonight so I recieve it but next weekend. Any other suggestions?


Also, can I smoke the Freebase or is it better sublingual. sublingual pharamyhuasca?
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#7 Posted : 1/11/2013 4:16:11 PM

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Anyone know if it is still possible to order THH online, now that Flowing Visions is (temporarily?) shut down?
 
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#8 Posted : 1/11/2013 8:40:13 PM

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