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jbark
#1 Posted : 6/21/2010 12:58:20 PM

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I have had 80g of dried P.Torch in my freezer for over a year, and finally took advantage of a free afternoon to try House's resin tek.

I put 750ml of tap water in a crock pot on high. When the water was hot, I added the cactus pieces and kept the pot on high until it bubbled up, then reduced to low and simmered for 2 hours.

Drained and repeated twice with 500ml of tap water, for a total of 3 times, and 1.75L (-the amount absorbed by the pieces.

The liquid is brown and has little clouds in it. Are these clouds plant fats as I suspect? Are they normal? No filtration was done, as per the tek.

I did a fourth pull over night with 750ml water, as the cactus was still a little bitter. It is slightly yellow and translucent. Is this worth evapping?

The tek says lemon juice is optional, so I opted not to add any. Would a last pull with lemon yield any more?

From 80g dried torch, how much resin should I expect?

I have read that approx 10-15g is a good dose? Can anyone corroborate/refute/add to this?

Thanks in advance.

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#2 Posted : 6/21/2010 1:22:39 PM

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Its definitely worth evaporating that will probably be your purest although not so plentiful extraction

 
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#3 Posted : 6/21/2010 1:24:44 PM

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Swims made resin once and it just seemed to half the amount of material you had to consume so ten grams resin would be like eating 20g of cactus, from 200g cactus swim got just under 100g of resin with four pulls, although he left it very low for 12 hours per pull after speaking to some folks here on the best methods. Hes happy with hsi resin but all its done is reduce the amount he has to consume, wasnt like his one mescaline acetate experience which was far stronger and cleaner than eating as is or the resin, which he expected to be closer to mescaline acetate.
 
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#4 Posted : 6/21/2010 4:57:54 PM

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Boiling the cactus hard seems to produce much more fats and goo. Steam + agitation dissolves a lot more than just mescaline and the water-solubles.

SWIM simply steeps the dried cactus in near-boiling water with a splash of vinegar, stirs it, lets it settle then pours off and filters to clear top layer.
He's testes this side-by-side with boiling (with brew, not resin) and subjectively saw no difference in strength.

His Resin is quite consistently been 9:2 to 5:1 resin to torch. (in 2 batches)

Also he uses a rice cooker to evaporate the resin, works wonders in making it a dry as possible. once again, subjectively no loss of strength


Hope that helps!
Q21Q21's Tek: A comprehensive guide to extracting DMT
The 2 teks use non-toxic lime and vinegar and Tek 1: d-Limonene or Xylene or Tek 2: Naptha to produce very quick high yields with the greatest of ease.

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#5 Posted : 6/24/2010 7:04:02 PM

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So here are the results, with pics:

The pyrex dish & 1 closeup. This is from the first 3 boils (I'll call it A). I didn't take a photo of the second pyrex dish, but the substance was considerably lighter (Ill call it B). Both took 2-2.5 days in a an oven at 150-175f, door open a crack, with the fan on.

I scraped the goo from A & B and put the balls of resin on tinfoil and in a food desiccator for 2 days. A is still a little soft, while B (the smaller of the two) is rock hard.

A (still soft, so maybe eventually a little lighter) weighs 28.5g

B weighs 8 g

I am wondering if there is any difference in potency between A & B.

I also put warm tap water in the pyrex dishes to recuperate any residual resin. I dumped them both in a large jar (total volume of liquid: 1.25L). The resulting snot soup Smile looks dark - maybe it is also potent...

Have yet to try any, but I am surprised from the yield: from 80g dried P.Torch I got around 35g of resin + the snot soup... Seems like a lot - maybe grabbed a lot of plant fats along the way?

Anyway, just wanted to share the results and maybe get a little feedback from those more experienced at extractions/resins.

Cheers,
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#6 Posted : 6/24/2010 7:07:44 PM

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Whatever you do, make sure to eat 3 strammoniums with the resin and drink some strong coffee after the onset 1.5-2 hours later. You will need much less material this way.
 
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#7 Posted : 6/25/2010 7:34:29 PM

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So the final tally after 2 days in the dessicator:

resin Lump A: 27.6g

Resin lump B: 7.4g

total: 35g!! + snot soup

Now I just need advice on dosage (ballpark, of course, I know there are a lot of variables...)
Candn anyone suggest a scale?

For example:

3-6 g light
6-10g moderate
10-15 good sized entheogenic dose
15-25 otherworldly-are-you-nuts dose!!

Anyone?

thanks,

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#8 Posted : 6/28/2010 2:59:30 PM

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So i drank the snot soup last night (pics above^^^). Wow. was not expecting that! The mere residue in the pyrex dishes was enough to give me a REALLY good sense of where cactus can take you. I was expecting very mild/threshold effects, but, while remaining coherent, i experienced magnificent CEVs and a tingling warmth that tipped to shivers on occasion, a fuzzy sense of LOVE for all and a mischievous and playful mood! Conversation, when my GF returned with her sister from dinner, was indulgent, inspired, and playful and entirely engaging! Bursting with LOVE!!

Cactus, i am a fan. Only drawback - I drank the snot soup at 7pm and didn't get to sleep until 4am, despite lying in bed from 12 on. Definitely a daytime substance unless you have nothing the following day! Feeling very hazy and disconnected today - maybe the lack of sleep, maybe the cactus, maybe both...

I (very roughly) estimate my consumption to have been not more than in the 1-3g range, and I have 35g of resin left!!! Definitely something I want to share with my GF, who is no psychonaut, but is open to the idea of trying less involving forms of mind alteration (forget DMT & salvia, but she has done low doses of mushrooms on occasion.). I see cactus in our future!

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#9 Posted : 6/28/2010 3:10:20 PM

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Sounds like more than 3g, honestly. But good to hear that you'Ve had a nice intro :=)
 
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#10 Posted : 6/28/2010 3:15:20 PM

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obliguhl wrote:
Sounds like more than 3g, honestly. But good to hear that you'Ve had a nice intro :=)


Could have been... hard to estimate the dredges at the bottom of two carefully scraped pyrex dishes!! maybe 5 or 6 then? who knows. With the resin I will be more methodical, starting with 1g and increasing in 1g increments. In the day, so i can hopefully avoid the sleep deprivation!!

incidentally, the only OEVs I had were the bending of straight lines if I focused too long on them, i.e. my keyboard as I typed!!

Cheers,
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#11 Posted : 6/28/2010 3:41:19 PM

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...you'll be pleased at how much even 1g can change your day. At leastr with pedro resin...Very happy
 
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#12 Posted : 6/28/2010 8:44:34 PM

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nice to hear you had a good experience...
my first experience with resin was a bit dissapointing a the end. i managed to get about 30 grams of resin from a 55 cm Pachanoi(7cm diameter). I took 15 grams starting at 8:00 in the evening till about 11 o'clock..hardly noticed anything till i fell asleep. When i woke up at around 1, i could feel the effects of the cactus, which was very pleasant, stimulating and a bit euphoric, but not what i expected from 15 grams!! so the potency of your cactus makes the difference at the end.
 
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#13 Posted : 6/28/2010 9:50:30 PM

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teotenakeltje wrote:
nice to hear you had a good experience...
my first experience with resin was a bit dissapointing a the end. i managed to get about 30 grams of resin from a 55 cm Pachanoi(7cm diameter). I took 15 grams starting at 8:00 in the evening till about 11 o'clock..hardly noticed anything till i fell asleep. When i woke up at around 1, i could feel the effects of the cactus, which was very pleasant, stimulating and a bit euphoric, but not what i expected from 15 grams!! so the potency of your cactus makes the difference at the end.


And maybe the extraction technique as well? I am a real novice at this and am as surprised as anyone that this stuff is as potent as it seems.

From the same batch of chips, i made a tea over 2 years ago from 40g, and drank it all one afternoon. A slight glow and some oev when i concentrated hard on the clouds was all i got. the 80g used this time were in the freezer for almost 2 years, and what I drank, as detailed above, was only the residue left after scraping the resin from the pyrex dishes!!

I don't know what I did right this time, but wow, what a difference. I can't wait to work up to a heavier dose!

Cheers,
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#14 Posted : 6/29/2010 12:22:04 AM

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jbark wrote:
I don't know what I did right this time, but wow, what a difference. I can't wait to work up to a heavier dose!

Cheers, JBArk


Thanks for sharing with us! Please keep us posted about your further voyages. Thanks in advance.


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#15 Posted : 6/29/2010 1:32:50 AM

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Beautiful report!
SWIM is going now to look in on his crockpot and see how the resin is going....
WHOA!
 
 
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