SWIM has some Voacanga africana seeds he purchased several years ago and decided not to try them. He’s read about chest pain, abdominal pain, etc., occurring in quite a few trip reports where body load was pretty much the major effect with little, if any, psychedelic effects present. Is this typical?

Are there people out there experiencing positive effects from these seeds?

What is a typical dose for positive effects, if any?

Do these seeds combine well with any other herbs?

If anyone has any trip reports to share, whether positive or negative, I would love to read them.

Tested in this order 1 week apart - 40 seeds, 80 seeds, 120 seeds.
There may have been a slight tolerance but this was about a year ago so id have try it again.
I think freshness is important as most of the bad reports iv read have been from purchased seeds - best to pick em fresh if possible.
if i remember correctly the effects were quite short lived - perhaps 1 hour in duration with slight mescaline like visuals - enhanced colors and edges etc.
the experimentation was given up after reading somewhere they were toxic combined with the fact that they didnt seem very strong at that dose.
No negative effects were noticed at all.
Maybe its time to try them again.