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josboaz
#1 Posted : 6/13/2023 3:49:37 AM
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Hello there,


A friend of mine taught me a method to extract DMT from Mimosa Hostilis.

Basically:
1. 100gr Lye (Sodium Hydroxide)
2. 100gr Mimosa Hostilis (M.H.)
3. Placing these two in a glass bottle 1L/0,26 Gallon
4. Then either add regular water or distilled water (I'm not sure)
5. The water and lye will cause heat, then the person should wait 30-60 minutes
6. After that, the person should add a solvent like naphtha, I do not know the exact ml's
But it looked like this
7. Then the person should rotate the bottle upside down for 15 minutes.
8. When that is completed the person is able to extract the top liquid with a pipette
9. Once that is completed the liquid that is extracted should be placed on a plate or a bowl and placed in the freezer after 24h the crystals are ready.

My friend showed me the process, but when I wanted to duplicate it, I got a brown gooey substance. I asked another friend and he told me that I might use too much naphtha.

Question:
Based on the 1L/0.26Gallon bottle and 100gr Mimosa/lye, how much distilled water and solvent should I use?

also,
In the past I used powdered Mimosa Hostilis, I see that M.H. powder is impossible to obtain at this moment, with the method I outlined here above, would it be possible to use the shredded M.H. version?
 

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fractals4life
#2 Posted : 6/13/2023 5:58:20 PM

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That order of adding water to lye is asking for trouble as the heat produced by lye dissolving can be very intense and boil the first bit of water added causing spitting / eruption of hot lye solution out of the bottle. This can easily blind anyone who gets it in their eyes!

You should always add lye, a bit at a time, to water, for safety as the large amount of water already present will absorb the heat enough to stop it boiling.

Also that's way too much lye, you can get away with far less.

There is a lot of good information elsewhere on this site, here for instance: https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Category:Extraction_Tek and here: https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...nd_Troubleshooting_Guide

The brown goo might be DMT in goo form, it might also be brown because it has some of the base soup in it if you weren't careful enough with the pipette. A way to purify it is to re dissolve the brown goo in a little naptha, swish a little distilled water with the naptha to dissolve any lye particles that might be in there, use a tall thin container as you then have to pipette the naptha off the top of the water and freeze precipitate as before.

Be safe, read the good information here, and enjoy Smile


 
fractals4life
#3 Posted : 6/13/2023 6:10:41 PM

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To answer your questions:

I'd use half that amount of lye (50g)

Use enough water to take it to about 750ml total volume (so dissolve your lye in, say 300ml, then add to the bark, then top up to 750 and mix)

Use about 50 ml naphtha, mix and let it separate a few times, pipette it off, then repeat with more naphtha, you want to be pulling small amounts of well saturated solvent so it precipitates properly.

But really, go read the wiki and absorb the principles involved in the various teks, or just pick one (cyb's salt tek is my go to as a start https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...ybrid_ATB_%27Salt%27_Tek )

 
josboaz
#4 Posted : 6/13/2023 6:39:54 PM
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fractals4life wrote:
To answer your questions:

I'd use half that amount of lye (50g)

Use enough water to take it to about 750ml total volume (so dissolve your lye in, say 300ml, then add to the bark, then top up to 750 and mix)

Use about 50 ml naphtha, mix and let it separate a few times, pipette it off, then repeat with more naphtha, you want to be pulling small amounts of well saturated solvent so it precipitates properly.

But really, go read the wiki and absorb the principles involved in the various teks, or just pick one (cyb's salt tek is my go to as a start https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...ybrid_ATB_%27Salt%27_Tek )




Thanks for the T.E.K.
After harmala extractions this T.E.K. Is very easy to follow.

They are talking about warm water baths do you know the temperature of those baths and what is the purpose of using salt?
 
fractals4life
#5 Posted : 6/13/2023 7:06:02 PM

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Warm water baths are optional and around 60C max I think? I found them useful to extract more per pull when it's winter and room temps are chilly. For example one time a 4th room temperature pull might be getting only 70mg out, but two further heated pull brought out more like 150mg each. My small crock pot came in handy for this. The heated pulls definitely produce a more yellow product, but it works just the same as the lighter coloured crystals Smile

The salt aids breaking down emulsions and makes the naphtha separate faster, it's also said to increase yield, but I've not tried without to compare.

 
josboaz
#6 Posted : 6/13/2023 8:35:01 PM
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fractals4life wrote:
Warm water baths are optional and around 60C max I think? I found them useful to extract more per pull when it's winter and room temps are chilly. For example one time a 4th room temperature pull might be getting only 70mg out, but two further heated pull brought out more like 150mg each. My small crock pot came in handy for this. The heated pulls definitely produce a more yellow product, but it works just the same as the lighter coloured crystals Smile

The salt aids breaking down emulsions and makes the naphtha separate faster, it's also said to increase yield, but I've not tried without to compare.



Thanks very much for all the info, you know... what I find peculiar is the fact that in this T.E.K. it states that one can pull 1 gr crystals from 50 gr M.H.
But back in 2014 when I did an extraction I got 10 gr crystals from 100 gr M.H. I did not do a re-crystallization, so if I would have done that, and created an all-white product I might have had a slightly less amount. But still, I would not suspect it to be under 7-8gr.
Yes, I know the T.E.K. stated that yields can vary but this is a very huge difference.
Any clue about this matter?
 
fractals4life
#7 Posted : 6/13/2023 9:15:40 PM

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Nope, no idea...

I thought the range of DMT content in MHRB was from 0-3%, depending on the batch of bark, so 10% sounds excessive, or very lucky Smile I've only achieved a bit over 2% in my endeavors.
 
 
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