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KlassM8
#1 Posted : 8/30/2022 12:08:16 AM

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Ok so I think most of the Teks kind of skim over the wash and re-x you do after the first freeze precipitation…I’d like to really refine my techique in this and a few other areas like decanting or separating…I’m pretty much committed to doing both the wash and re-crystallizing, at least once. I can’t imagine needing more than 1 re-x, I may not even waste my time doing multiple re-x…

One problem I’m having right now is that my freeze precip is not really sticking to the glass anymore, thus I am no longer able to simply pour out the remaining NPS and put the jar upside down to dry. I’m watching tons of goodies flowing right out, like it wasn’t all crystals stuck to the glass it was more like a half inch of sludge at the bottom. So I’ve got a Büchner funnel but it’s so damn slow the spice just reabsorbs into the solvent, or is getting stuck absorbed into the filter.

Does anybody have a technique u like for removing the solvent after the freeze precip? Is filtering really necessary? Or maybe I have to clean my solvent somehow? I’m still within my first kg of bark, maybe just over halfway thru the bag

Also the wash, do I do the sodium carbonate wash by shaking it up so the water cleans the dmt-loaded naphtha solution (before freezer?), or should I wash the dried crystals after they dry? Or should I redissolve it in a minimum amount of NPS before shaking it up with the wash?

Also I tried redissolving in clean naphtha for re-x and another freeze precip, and a surprising amount of junk remains that wouldn’t redissolve in warm naphtha, like a bunch of grains of sand mixed in with the water after I decanted the solvent for freeze precip. Idk if that is significant, and is there anything I can do with this stuff that’s supposed to be plant oils etc but it smells like dmt but idk if I want to even put it in my pipe and junk up the choreboy u know what I mean
 

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#2 Posted : 8/30/2022 1:34:16 AM

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Have you tried decanting very slowly? That may help leave tve goodies behind.

Red oil during re-x could be mostly DMT in a form that doesnt dissolve that easily. Heat up the naphtha more and leave it longer, it may go into solution eventually. You can also do a mini A/B to convert the DMT to its more soluble form.

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KlassM8
#3 Posted : 8/30/2022 5:40:13 AM

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Have you tried decanting very slowly?


Yes, but it’s hard with the mason jars I’m using (the fluid tends to drip down the outside of the cup I’m trying to pour out of). This has been one of the peskiest challenges at every stage of the process it seems!
 
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#4 Posted : 8/30/2022 6:15:31 AM

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Have you tried decanting very slowly?


Yes, but it’s hard with the mason jars I’m using (the fluid tends to drip down the outside of the cup I’m trying to pour out of). This has been one of the peskiest challenges at every stage of the process it seems!


If you decant into a glass tray for freeze precipitation that should not be an issue.
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#5 Posted : 8/30/2022 8:54:45 AM
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If you stir the solvent loaded with floaters with something made of glass, in my experience everytime the glass you're stirring with comes into contact with the floaters they stick to it. Even using a metal spoon is pretty effective if you slowly move it through the debris.

You can even try rubbing the implement on a soft material before fishing. Dont know if it actually gets enough static charge to be useful or not but it cant hurt
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