The Big Leisurely A/B is A/B rather than STB like in the Jorkest tek.

The aliens know this is an old argument but how does A/B compare to STB with this limo tek? Does A/B come out any better?

Hello peeps + thanks for the new variation Jorkest!!

Trying it atm with a Chacruna extraction... I am at the FASI stage but think I may have added it too quickly to the limonene... I have nice crystals on the side of the glass but what looks like fine fumerate powder settling at the bottom... will this crystallize at some point or should I pour through a coffee filter, dry and collect the dust?

Cheers!

you shouldnt have to do any coffee filter crap..the stuff will stick to the jar...and you cant REALLY add it too fast..all that does is make the dmt fumarate crash out really fast and keep it from making crystals...

something i tried was freezing some IPA and washing the fumarates with that...i figure that will help make the dmt even less soluble in it

SWIM used this salting method on a recent A/B

Check it out Here to see a full description of the procedure.

Here are some pix of nice DMT Fumarate crystals after crashing out of the solution then after being filtered & dried!

.......beautiful.

........hey, I see a couple hairs in that 3rd pic.

You do what you can, lol.

Looks like dog's hair, actually

CosmicLion: Beautiful spice indeed. This FASIPA method seems very promising, atleast if jork is reporting 1.5% yeilds with a semi-drytek!

Jorkest: Great work! I would really appreciate a quick step-by-step though,
as reading through the thread it becomes a little blurry exactly what was done.
could you do that? :-)

SWIM added anhydrous magnesium salts to 91% IPA and filtered. This he thought had little to no water but could have been way wrong. Anyway, he added like tons of fumaric acid to make FASIPA and then he added this to the d-limo. Right away, the little amount of liquid sank to the bottom which yielded 800mg of DMT-fumurate and excess fumaric acid. This was washed to about 500mg of DMT-fumurate (lots of fumaric acid was washed out). However, no precipitation occurred whatsoever, it did cloud, but it turned clear in a little bit with no crystals. Why could this be? Could it be that the FASIPA wasn't 99%? That is what SWIM thinks. Hmm.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m..._-_The_Big_Leisurely_A/B

go to step four for the FASI part...and as of now i am over 1.5%

yes all the dmt went into the water...that is why there was no crystals...for the FASI to work best...you need 99% or better...i noticed that even that 1% of water didnt cause any water to separate out...probably because the IPA enable the d-limo to hold that small amount of water

^yea that sounds about right, SWIM will have to try and get 99% IPA. Thanks for the response, much appreciated.

Don't suppose anyone's tried this with mescaline yet?

I remember folk saying FASA doesn't work with mescaline, but I can't remember exactly why. If there's anything to this then another thread should be started other tell me in a fast talking 40's accent "That's crazy talk!"

SWIM was certain that mescaline fumarate was slightly soluble in limonene. FASA won't work because the fumaric acid won't remain dissolved in limonene. SWIM's wondering if a solution of andhydrous IPA and acetone with HCl would work well for mescaline. SWIM's also wondering whether HCl is at all reactive with MgSO4 (probably not), because the solution could be rendered anhydrous after the HCl is added. If acetic acid is soluble in MEK, that may work as well.

i tried salting mescaline fumarate out of d-limo and it didnt work...but maybe HCL would?? or some other acid...maybe citric acid could work..but havent had a chance to test it

95% is fine.

It's more than fine. It works.

It is what SWIM uses.

Hey Jorkest, question, SWIY took the goo that precipitated and put that into boiling IPA. Was the goo whitish, kinda yellow? Then when you boiled it and let it cool it precipitated as pink? Do you have any clue to why this happened? Has SWIY tried that pink stuff yet, either orally or vapor? Thanks.

regards,

damiana

the goo was almost a dark redish brown(clear) after i collected it with a bit of water and evapped...then i boiled the ISO..then put the dmt fumarate in it..until it was all absorbed..then stuck it in the fridge for 2-3 days..and it precipped PINK dmt...i ground it all together because some of the crystals were white and some were deep red..but i wanted a full profile so i mixed them together...

what i did next was absorb that pink dmt in water again..and evapped the water..and it turned back into the yellowish chunky dmt fumarate we are use to...i had three different colored dmt at the end of one BLAB..but the water evap turned it all the same color..and yes i have tested this stuff..and its sooo fucking potent...personally i feel like its more potent than FASW extracted dmt

SWIM did a FASW and FASI back to back to test the results, they were nearly identical, but the FASI required a bit more cleaning. SWIM thinks he will stick with FASW water due to convenience (SWIM likes to reuse his limo, and throwing ipa into it adds another step to cleaning it up).

Have you tested the elephant spice?

what i actually did...was dissolve the pink elephant spice in water and evaporated it..and it turned the same color as the rest of the spice...haha i dont know why or how..but its all the same depending on how you crystallize it...the spice of many colors....magic

anyway...ive tested all of it...and its soo damn potent...and i have also been hearing reports of other people trying it...and it being SUPER potent for them as well...48mg of the fumarate caused a SUPER intense experience for me...which is only 36mg of dmt...ive heard stories of people that use to eat over 200mg and having a decent experience...then eating 100mg of this stuff and getting overwhelmed by it...either peoples sensitivity is changing..or there are other molecules causing this HUGE boost in effects