Thank you a million times, Oly! I will soon do my first spice extraction and plan on making Changa for my first travel. Your post is really helpful and I appreciate the effort put into structuring it so well!

Much love

this post was so inspirational, i am currently in the process of making my first blend! so excited!

This thread is amazing, and I'm starting to plan my first changa. My main question is this: What do people feel is the different between extracting alkaloids and adding it to changa vs. making 10x caapi leaf?

Process wise, making 10x caapi leaf seems way easier despite taking much longer. Are the effects similar or not really?

I'm planning a simple blend to start out. Either just caapi leaf or a blend of caapi leaf and sage or yarrow. I already have a relationship with both thujone containing plants.

Thanks all!

Is there a way to do this with rue seeds and without the complicated tek to get the harmala freebase out of it? Would it be crazy to use ground seed as the organic medium? Or is this not going to be potent enough on the Harmalas that way? Really like the idea of elongating the experience and having the redose option. Btw, is this any different than drinking rue tea 45 minutes before smoking?

Between a 10x leaf/dmt blend versus using extracted harmalas in a blend, both were pretty similar in their potentiation with the dmt ime.



I get that you're not wanting to do a tek, understandable, but the various rue teks for harmalas aren't all that difficult. I think it's worth the bit of effort to have some extracted harmalas laying around.

You could use ground rue seed in your blend, but that's really not going to be all that effective if at all, versus actually using crude/purified harmalas.



You could drink a little rue prior to smoking, sure. For me I'd never drank a whole bunch before smoking, only about equivalent to .6-.8g of seeds, never drank much above that. I only liked having a little bit of harmalas in the system, not a full on dose of them.

Though if you're wanting to drink a stiff dose of rue tea then vape dmt, then go for it , just be careful.., start low with the dmt.

That’s it. You talked me into it. I enjoy the extracting processes and challenging myself anyway. Last time I did an acrb extraction I was very zen all day while doing it. I’m just gonna need to pick up some more kitchen supplies. Just on a similar note, could I do a 10x or 20x enhancement like I would with caapi? (Boiling down a bunch then simmering into an herb)