ohayoco wrote:polytrip wrote:A low amount of mescaline (peyote), with caapi and theobromine is by far the best XTC substitute there is. It beats the 'real thing' by far.
Please could you suggest a dosage recipe for this, Polytrip?
pau wrote:I thought I'd take a brief detour and try out cactus and B. caapi. Anybody have experience with that...must be close to harmala/cactus?
I looked into this once, after reading through every relevent Erowid report I got the impression that you need something like a third as much cactus when combining with aya (from the most credibly worded retrospective report). Others will know from personal experience, I'm sure, so watch this space.
I once made tea from a few peyote's. It must have been about two fists of cacti. With that i took a few teaspoons of maya's 50:1 caapi extract and a few teaspoons of theobromine.
The result was a rushing sensation like when you've taken XTC and it just starts to kick in, but this rushing lasted for hours. At the end i also had some minor mescaline OEV's, but not much.
I think the trick for using it as an XTC substitute is to get just below the dosage where peyote truly starts to become psychedelic. If you take more than a certain amount, and this may be different in each person, it all of a sudden is far more like ayahuasca than like XTC.