Does it make you feel sick? Okay i'll look into it btw is it expensive?

Ya it def sounds like you need to get a torch. If your loading 30mg in and there's still more left your probably only getting 15mg or so.

Before you jump to another method you really should perfect this one first.

I use a torch i got from home Depot. It came with an attachment for soldering and has a base so you can set it down easily. It works great. Has lasted over a year, many doses with others and myself.

You may find you have less left over at the end with a torch because you'll be able to inhale the DMT faster without inhaling the buffer of air.

Harmalas can make you feel sick depending on the route of administration, dosage, and it varies from person to person. For example I have a very weak stomach, stemming from my irritable bowel syndrome. If I take the same amount of syrian rue as my friends, often I will be the only one who gets sick. I'm rather prone to it, but it doesn't always happen. Extracted harmalas are less nauseating than crude plant material like syrian rue and caapi. The harmalas have their ups and downs, but I agree that if you're having trouble in the department of "not effective enough" they might be your remedy.

Shapes that glide on the ground with no colour lol sounds crazy when read. But i think every one gets that, its like moving transparent patterns, i have those just about every time i chuff on changa, it apears on the floor and sometimes on table cloths.
Once i had them just in my general vision from some yellow evil dmt
It is caused by sub break through amounts as others have said, but changa is nice sub break through and lots of sub break throughs one after another will lead to a break through, like it builds up. At least thats what ive found.

I have a standard "Torch Lighter" It basically looks like a zippo lighter but its very hard to use.

http://www.cheaphumidors.com/p_CL-BKO-D.html

that is basically what i have. It doesn't work well because i try to tip the flame more towards the ceramic filter and the lighter turns off(the fuel shifts in the lighter}. The lighter is almost upside down so that i can ensure the DMT is melted down into vapor fast. I might be doing this wrong but i should definitely do more reading.


I'll take a look at the local hardware stores i dont like that the flame shoots straight up. I think i need a torch that comes out at an angle of some sort.

Yes. Most torch lighters are actually not designed to be used upside down. I had a couple unfortunate ones of that type. With some torches, the angle doesn't matter. This is the case for both the Arc and my current torch as well.

I've gotten this before. Once, it was probably a threshold dose, and I was drinking (don't drink and smoke DMT--not only is it disrespectful and probably unsafe, but it takes away from the experience quite a bit). Everything stacked on itself and became hyper photoreal and started flashing. I remember everything flaring red and the table in front of me was being swarmed by arm like pattern things. It's happened another time too (I wasn't drinking), I was with a friend and she morphed into a hispanic girl dancing but she was photo real and we were in the midwest somewhere; I was seeing her from the perspective of being a baby on a woman's back. I vaguely remember seeing flashes of this girls life, like photographs, but I have no idea who she might be. I wrote about it on here I believe. I had one other experience where I came home from a show and was on maybe 250 mics of acid. I decided to smoke DMT with a close friend of mine; the session went for a while and ended up being a very deep exerience, but I distinctly remember one threshold dose where all I could see was the album cover for the band Acid King's album Free. It was photo real and it lasted the whole experience. One of the more odd things I've experienced and I'm not too sure what to make of it.

This works
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look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXZKcxvU1cw#t=47

I am only experienced with using syrian rue.
There is next to no nausea if you extract the haramala from Syrian Rue and take a moderate dosage.
If you don`t wish to do that, then boiling the seeds in liquid then drinking the liquid is an alternative.
I`d never go back to drinking liquid, or eating the seeds raw, they are NASTY!
Plus, when you do an extraction, you can investigate how much the extract effects you, making future adjustments easy. With boiling and drinking the liquid from seed boils, there was a significant component of unpredictability, and an increase in nausea.
As far as, "is it expensive?"... Absolutely not. In terms of cost, it'd be approximately a dose for 1/20th of a packet of chips.
All the best

The name of my lighter is "Vertigo". I've finally checked. I think I had been saying it was Vertex or something, I don't remember. It's called "Vertigo" and I got it at the local smoke shop. I would suggest looking into it. It's in the $20-30 range, it's incredibly reliable, is designed to be used upside down, has just as good a flame if not better than the Arc with a bigger gas tank, but the Vertigo also has two sliding switches: one for locking the lighter so it can't light (great for when you're worrying about setting your pants on fire from the inside-out) and the other for locking the flame on so you don't have to be pulling the trigger (I don't really use this one, but perhaps some would find it ideal). Also use triple-quadruple refined butane to keep your lighter reliable and in tip-top shape.

Lots of versions in Vertigo:
http://www.lightersdirec...3337d61be1601f1b555f8ee5
What's the success version of yours Global? Is it in that list? Thx.

Bump to find out which vertigo lighter it was. I bought this exact torch from a headshop for under $10. It died about 2 weeks later. I think it was intended as a cheap, quick-light cigarette lighter. Not an extended-on vaporizing lighter lol.

Ah yes, sorry for the confusion. It's definitely not the one you were using FloorFan. It is on the list that Jees posted in the post above yours. It's the Vertigo "Wizard" toward the bottom of the page.

My experiences were beautiful, but very jumbled and confusing for so long. Through maybe 30 or so DMT experiences both oral and smoked. Finally the other night I smoked a couple small bowls of caapi leaf before smoking some strong changa. I smoked the changa twice. Both were amazingly beautiful and transformative experiences, what I've been looking for from DMT all this time. Took about a year to finally get this.

thank you so much for this. i've been running into this a lot trying to get friends to get where they want to be going. but many are not smokers and do not seem to understand how to both take in and HOLD the hit as long as possible. i can break through and i mean completely lose all idea of what happened and where i am on as little as 15-20mg. I take it in one hit in the vapor genie using a torch and just hold it till i hear the sound.Then the visual distortions set it and start amplifying on an algorithmic level. but when i load the exact same mix to my friends i can go all the way up 70 mg. and they cough out 3-6 hits and just get sub-breakthrough. it really seems up to the smoker and not the amount.

I think that's so cool how each person gets at least one stand out different "thing" when they use dmt or psychedelics in general. Mine is I always get this very distinct swaying black marking on my arm and I always have the same thought. " those bastards! That's how they can find me." Ha