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Most of what a dentist will tell you about tooth decay is based on lies and misconceptions. A healthy tooth can actually clean itself from the inside out. Our teeth have microscopic tubules known as dentinal tubules which are around 2-3 microns in diameter. Also in our teeth we find cells known as odontablasts which function almost like pumps and feed our teeth from the inside. The pumping action forces wastes out and cleans your teeth. This action protects our teeth from acids and decay if we are healthy and eat a mineralised vitamin rich diet. This pumping or cleaning process is regulated mostly by the hypothalamus sending a signal to the parotid glands and under certain conditions ie malnutrition the hypothalamus sends a faulty signal and the pumping or cleaning process is reversed and the teeth will draw saliva, plaque and acids into the tooth and rot it out. Another major factor in tooth decay is the endocrine system. When the diet includes too much refined sugar the pituitary gland can't regulate the function of the pancreas efficiently and it can cause phosphorus to be drawn out of the bones and teeth. Disruption to pituitary function can also disrupt thyroid function which can affect calcium metabolism. Calcium and phosphorus are two of the most important minerals when it comes to bone and tooth strength. Other minerals play a role as well and most diets these days are deficient and/or imbalanced in many minerals. A healthy body can actually regrow and repair cavities, if I had any cavities I'd look into natural tooth repair. There's an excellent book on the subject titled Cure Tooth Decay written by Ramiel Nagel Quote:http://www.curetoothdecay.com/
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Cloud Whisperer
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Jellyfox Fascinating thread, I have personally found that a vanilla extract and mint toothpaste from my local organic store works incredibly well it contains no fluoride or sodium lauryl sulfate and its incredibly cost effective as its made locally. I make sure to use a home made olive soap which is ph balanced and chemical free. For moisturizing I use an organic all natural olive and kigelia rejuvenating treatment cream which is also made locally. For washing my hair I use sodium bicarbonate for my shampoo and apple cider vinegar for my conditioner. Thank you for the interesting information, I'm looking forward to conducting a thorough investigation into your toothpaste technique... Much Peace and Respect
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were off to see the jelly fox, he'll give us what we need.
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thanks Aegle.
I should add it does seem a better idea to cut out the baking soda and just go with coconut oil and herbs/oils of choice for toothpaste.
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This is why I love the Nexus. In addition to analysis of the existential nature of our souls, you also find low-cost, environmentally friendly toothpaste recipes. I gave just straight coconut oil a try (I don't have access to anything else), and I have to say, me teeth felt wonderful afterwards. There was no weird flavor lingering in my mouth the way there is with Crest mint toothpaste. You have another convert. Still kind of sad that this wasn't a threat about how you could extract DMT from toothpaste, however. "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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Cloud Whisperer
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Jellfox Stevia rebaudiana would also be a lovely ingredient to incorporate into a natural toothpaste as it is incredibly delicious and stevia is actually really good for your teeth. After nibbling on the leaves while sipping yerba mate my teeth always feel so nice, clean and fresh. Much Peace and Compassion
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Thanks for the insight but I think I will keep away from coco-oil because of the saturated fat content. I've been using mouthwash for years now 
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Jellyfox wrote:
I should add it does seem a better idea to cut out the baking soda and just go with coconut oil and herbs/oils of choice for toothpaste.
What made you change your mind Jellyfox? Do you guys just use coconut oil and mix it in a jar with the other herbs/oils and stir? "It permits you to see, more clearly than our perishing mortal eye can see, vistas beyond the horizons of this life, to travel backwards and forwards in time, to enter other planes of existence, even (as the Indians say) to know God." R. Gordon Wasson
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were off to see the jelly fox, he'll give us what we need.
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Some seem to be put off by this because they are worried that baking soda is abrasive and will wear away enamel. I am not to particularly concerned about this but since the oil is well enough on its own why use baking soda anyway?
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were off to see the jelly fox, he'll give us what we need.
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And journey man, this is from the article i linked if your worried about saturated fats.
What About The Saturated Fat?
If you are still concerned about saturated fat, consider taking a second look. Even if you still avoid/limit saturated fats, it is important to note that not all saturated fats behave the same way in the body. Coconut oil, due to its high lauric acid content is actually beneficial to the body.
It is also fascinating to note that countries like Thailand eat very high amounts of saturated fats like coconut oil and lard, and have very low levels of disease on average.
In fact, people consuming a traditional diet in Thailand have less instance of heart disease and the lowest rates of cancer for all 50 countries studied by the World Health Organization. Diabetes is TEN times more frequent in the United States that in Thailand, despite (or perhaps because of) their high fat consumption.
What do they Thai people eat? A large part of their diet consists of coconut, fermented foods, meat, a variety of vegetables and rice. If you’ve ever tasted Thai food, you know that they also have bold taste in seasonings and make use of potent herbs and spices like curry, lemongrass, basil and chilis.
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I'm glad to see this thread. I do make my own shampoo and toothpaste. Sodium laureth Sulphate. Dioxaine contamination. Mass produced chemical garbage, packaged in plastic... What you put on your body, gets into your body. I've been meaning to get into soap making for years now...haven't gotten around to it yet, so I buy locally produced castille soap. "Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Albert Einstein
I appreciate your perspective.
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were off to see the jelly fox, he'll give us what we need.
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yeah homemade soap is the best too!
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I use a fluoride-free & SLS-free toothpaste, but the commercial ones are still not as optimal as they could be. I combine the following home-made paste recipe with:
1. The Paleo diet ( + goat/sheep fermented dairy, primarily home-made goat kefir). Without this low-sugar/low-starch diet, the right toothpaste is simply not enough to do enough good.
2. Some supplementation (primarily D3, CoQ10 Ubiquinol, Magnesium, K2 Mk4)
3. Flossing before going to bed (well, some times, I wear braces these days)
Here's the recipe:
- virgin, cold-pressed, unrefined coconut oil (anti-microbial, anti-fungal)
- CoQ10 Ubiquinol (capsule’s liquid, regenerates gums. Make sure it’s not Ubiquinone). It's also what meth-heads are using to regenerate their bad teeth.
- concentrated Trace Mineral Drops (re-mineralization)
- calcium carbonate powder (abrasive agent)
- oregano oil (diluted, anti-microbial)
- aluminum-free baking soda (whitening, cleaning)
- vodka or ouzo (anti-microbial, taste – γεια μας!)
- sea salt (minerals, optional)
- peppermint oil (for its taste, optional)
Calcium carbonate should not be used every day, and baking soda should be used only a few times a month after you have reached the white color you desire.
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Figured I would post this here, it's a recipe for homemade deodorant that uses coconut oil. It works very well. There are just as many, if not more, harmful chemicals in deodorants as there are in tooth pastes. Quote:Ingredients
1/2 cup baking soda
1/2 cup corn starch/potato starch/tapioca starch/arrowroot powder
8-10 tablespoons coconut oil
Equipment
Plastic wrap or sandwich bag
Empty toilet paper roll tube (or if that makes you squeamish, a paper towel tube should do, so long as you cut it shorter- not that you'd have something as unfrugal and ungreen as paper towels in your home- you'd borrow from a neighbor, of course)
Mixing container
Spoon
Food processor/blender if needed/desired
Instructions
1. Make sure your baking soda isn't clumpy. If you buy it in bulk and store it for a while like I do, you may find that it clumps into large chunks. If this is the case, whiz it in a blender/food processor until it is broken up.
2. Mix baking soda with your corn starch, potato starch, tapioca starch, or arrowroot powder. Make sure its mixed well.
3. Add coconut oil, one tablespoon at a time, until you get a nice, thick paste (almost like playdough).
4. Spoon the paste into a cut piece of plastic wrap or into a sandwich bag.
5. Place the wrapped mixture inside your toilet paper tube. Push it down so that it reaches all the way to the bottom. You'll have enough so that there will be more of the mixture above the rim, making a mound, as in the picture above.
6. Wrap the excess plastic wrap or sandwich bag over the mound and place in the refrigerator until hard.
To use, remove from fridge, remove plastic wrap, and rub on your underarms as you would any other stick deodorant.
When the deodorant mound on top gets finished, push up what remains inside the tube so you have more sticking out.
How does it work? Baking soda stops things from stinking, and is an antibacterial. Corn starch or the like absorb moisture. And coconut oil, in addition to binding the mixture, is good for the skin, and is antibacterial and antifungal, and even stops things from smelling.
Note: If you can't afford coconut oil, or don't have access to it, you can make a deodorant powder just by mixing equal amounts of starch and baking soda, and apply it with a paintbrush designated for that purpose. It works well, but be prepared to get white powder all over your clothes and floor when applying it. The stick eliminates the mess involved.
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were off to see the jelly fox, he'll give us what we need.
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My pleasure 
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jamie wrote:it is actaully not a good idea to use baking soda for your tooth paste. I talked about this with a dentist once and they warned me about people doing that. It is abrasive and so wears down your tooth enamel over time, which is not what you want. I was told making a water infused with certain essential oils and salt is the best way to go. Here is a good video on oral health care at home.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xTbR8d57Kc Soda crystals mixed through some kind of organic paste...off course that's abrassive. But would Soda still be abbrasive if it was dissolved in water before being mixed into a paste? I guess not, right? Or is it the basic nature of Soda which causes harm to the tooth enamel? I'm getting increasingly more interrested in making my own toothpaste too. As well as my own body soap & shampoo.
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were off to see the jelly fox, he'll give us what we need.
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glad to hear your taking hygiene into your own hands ska.
Some people are freaked out about the baking soda being to abrasive and eroding enamel of the tooth but I really don't think its that big of a deal unless you are brushing your teeth as hard as you can.
none the less i took it out because It's not essential to the recipe. Coco oil and peppermint work great for me.
also i tend to brush my gums more than my teeth and floss a lot.
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Commercial toothpaste contains diatomaceous earth and other much more abrasive stuff than baking soda.
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I would advise for people wishing to try these home-made toothpaste teks to wait for or seek the opinion of a dentist (or a guy whose profession/education relates closely to dental hygiene) before going on trying them . You can only know that much from reading stuff off the internet. The forum rules about not passing medical advise unless you're a qualified doctor also apply to advocating the use of home-made toothpastes over conventional ones. Certainly there are ultra cheap and crappy toothpastes available in the stores but for a bit extra most of us can afford something of high quality, well tested and with the ingredients outlined to help you make a decision. Unless of course you live in a jungle, in which case just salt or coconut oil is your best next things. Need to calculate between salts and freebases? Click here! Need to calculate freebase or salt percentage at a given pH? Click here!
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Cool thread! I've been getting some discounted natural toothpaste since my friend works at a health food store but i've been meaning to make my own Infundibulum wrote: The forum rules about not passing medical advise unless you're a qualified doctor also apply to advocating the use of home-made toothpastes over conventional ones.
It seems like a pretty big stretch to think talking about what toothpaste you use qualifies as "passing medical advice"
<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
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