Thanks! You don't want to use cotton though (organic). You want polyfill (synthetic pillow stuffing). Polyfill provides fresh air exchange while still filtering the air and not giving contams a place to live. Tyvek and other filters may not provide FAE, only gas exchange, so watch out.

Hey,

Glad to have your input on this.

1. What do you mean by 'bio-efficient'? If you mean that the material input and the yield output has a better ratio for the smaller yields then SWIM would of course agree, since that is SWIM's point of course. Again, SWIM does see how CCVG is a good way to go (possibly more potent?), SWIM simply prefer's using more small casing's since that is more efficient. SWIM may end up trying the CCVG tek in a smaller form. Thanks for the idea.

2. SWIM did not realize you had already pulled from that spot, so that makes a lot more sense considering that picture did not look like 119 grams dry.

3. For your number 3 response, it is important to realize that SWIM only compared our first flushes together (18 for SWIM and 119 for you), not all of SWIM's [which would be about 30 grams] to one of yours. But SWIM would of course have to agree, it would be best to compare all the flushes of SWIM's with all your flushes. We can compare that when it is done.

4. The way SWIM does his smaller casing's isn't set and forget as far as SWIM knows, though it could be because it has an air exchange filter and all. SWIM will have to try with one of his and find out . Thank you for that idea. You should check out SWIM's tek when it is complete for further understanding. Damiana's Tek

5. Not exactly sure what your mean by 'side pins' but SWIM likes to use a casing layer to make sure of the even pin set. Just how SWIM likes to work is all. SWIM has never tried without it so SWIM will have to experiment with it. Thanks for the idea, again. .

6. SWIM doesn't dunk anymore, just afraid of breaking the casing again .

Again, thanks for your input. Hopefully we can collaborate on a perfect tek.

Regards,

Damiana

Yummy

Hey Shaggy - PE question for you...

Doing my first cultivation with some PEs and some Amazonian using the PF tek/rice cake method and a shotgun fruiting chamber. I've done just about everything sub-optimally so far, yet the shrooms still decided to pop :-)

My PEs are ready first, and I was waiting for the veil to tear, or *about* to tear, to harvest. So I asked on the Shroomery how to tell when they are *about* to tear, and the response was that they *don't* for PE's so it's a matter of knowing what to look for. They said mine were ready, so I picked up the cake and some of them self-harvested by falling off..lol!

So my question is...what do I look for with PEs to know when to harvest? When the caps start to curl up at the edges maybe? When they stop growing over a 24hr period?

Thanks so much!

Worry about when to harvest is probably overdone (and you will find that fact repeated at the shroomery). I've been harvesting my PEs when growth has slowed/stopped: usually at a point when the caps have expanded somewhat from their initial round shape (but before they have gone completely flat). It's usually 4-7 days after easily visible pins form (depending on temperature).

Nobody knows for sure (at least I haven't read otherwise). I DO know that people have used weights of pure pins which produced effects equal to the same weights of mature fruits (see a post on the nexus by, I believe, acolon_5).

The most likely truth is that psilocybin content is simply proportional to size--which means that you might as well harvest them when they've mostly stopped growing. That's what I try to do.

..immature "aborts" have the most concentration of actives..you find this in psychotria as well..the newer growth tips are more potent. Beyond the little pin aborts though I dont know if it makes a difference..

This is what is known as your basic mono-tub bulk tek which in the past along with the smaller version mislabeled as a "Casing" casing is a non-nutritious layer added to the top of the substrate to help retain moisture, lower possibility of contamination, and for some species is required to initiate fruiting like your basic agaricus(sp?) button mushrooms. those fruits look nice also :-) i recently did my second grow. i had used pf tek the first time with b+ and although the yield was nice the potency was next to nothing but could of been due to genetics and being an MS instead of an isolation but the grow i did recently was a bulk tek monotub with 20 lbs of horsepoo/compost and the PES Hawaiian strain fo cubes and WOW i ended up with 6 ounces dry from the first flush and every single mushroom weighed at least 30 grams or more wet with a few weighing between 50-66 grams and the largest weighing a whopping 75 grams (dry they all weighed at least 3 grams and the 75 gram ended up weighing 7.5 dry) but most importantly the potency was insane. can't wait to give PE a try with this setup