I saw these things before i ever heard of them. So i have seen many other things of wich i have still never heard anyone speak, wich may also (probably) be things not totally unique in the sense that other people might have experienced them as well.
_Often on tryptamines i saw everyhing covered with a sort of electric red and green glow that made a sort of twinkling or knispering sound.
-very simillar to this glow is seeing everything existing out of tiny cells that emit very colourfull bright light.
-Things turning into multidimensional fibers spiralling in impossible ways.
-Things becoming multidimensional in that they are far away and very near at the same time.
-a vibration that seems to be pure joy, extasy, love or humour.
-becoming a spiralling electrical wave
-seeing things with your eyes closed, sharper then your normal vision allows (like your inner eye has more pixels, like HDTV compared to normal television)
-having a total deja-vu
-Time- travelling or remembering previous subsequent lives.
-seeing strange symbols
-being at two places at the same time
-seeing the other side of your vision, or what lies behind all that you see, where vision and auditory perception seem to melt together.

I myself had been reading about DMT and its effect's as I searched for it for 13 years. So by the time I learned of extracting it myself, I had read about it way, way too much. I had too many expectations going in and was disappointed because I didn't get huge, breakthrough experiences every time. In the beginning, we were using a glass "meth" pipe & my co-piolet never really got the hang of heating the oil very well. So I never got really big tokes until I started using an easier smoking device and could light up to 3 or 4 good hits by myself.

So my friend who I experimented with, had never heard of DMT before I turned him on and I purposely did not tell him too many details because reading so much about DMT kind of messed up my first experiences. He would come back and tell me about his experience and almost every time he would report contact with entities & aliens, it would sound like something I had read about before.
On one of the first times we smoked, he started coming out of it and looked like he was a bit freaked out, he told me that he was just in a "domed room" of some kind, the only light was coming from where the floor and walls met and there was geometric patterns floating slowly through the air and constantly changing their forms. He said these patterns were like a language, that they meant something important. But the part that freaked him out was that off in a "corner of the room" was a "mantis-like-alien creature" and it was staring at him with a power that he could feel deep into his soul!! Like it was not just probing his mind and reading his thoughts but experiencing his entire history of emotions & exsisting!! He said the powerful gaze gave off a sound like "Hypnotoad" from "Family Guy"!! A kind of low throbbing hum, "wom-wom-wom-wom". My pal said it made everything in the "room" they were in vibrate or bend to the rythem of the throbbing.
He said that it didn't really try to communicate with him and that it also didn't seem threatening or like it meant any harm but that it was so powerful that it really freaked him out!!! In fact, he said that as the experince was ending, he could feel a "gratitude or a thanks" coming from it as the whole scene started fading away. Like the mantis-alien was thanking him, for allowing it to experience his memories & emotions so freely.
Also, he noted that all he "saw" was the head of this mantis-thing, not the body. But that it wasn't just floating there either, it was like the mantis-alien was sticking its head though a hole in the fabric of that "reality" in order to experience his emotions & thoughts in exchange for feeling its powerful love & beautiful visions!!
Or something like that, it was a while ago.

So anyway after he told me that, I pulled up an internet page were they discuss the mantis like entities that people experience when taking Tryptamine psychedelics exclusively. He was quite amazed that other people had apparently been contacted by the same entities he had!!

On another trip, my friend was visited by a "floating wind godess" that "circled around him like smoke" and was so beautiful, he said he had trouble looking at her directly!! She told him that "these plants and the chemicals they hold are the keys to the other dimensions here on our planet". That DMT in particular, is a type of "skeleton key that can open almost all doors, but in the unskilled hands of most modern men, opens them randomly at best".
She also told him that he was going to "take this knowledge back with him this time" and he was to share it with as many people as he could. He was able to easily tell me about this trip, in detail, even days after it happened.
This experience also happened without my pal reading about these kinds of theory's before the experience!!
My friend had not even taken LSD or Mushrooms before smoking DMT. Just Pot. And at the time didn't even have internet access at his house. he was using mine to check his email etc..

I have had quite a few contact experiences myself but I had also read about DMT to overload capacity before my first experience, so none of those stories are needed here.

Cheers,

I still haven't been able to tie my entities to an archetype of any kind, by they are incredibly mischievous and they're world definitely has a circus-like quality to it. One thing that I have to get over is internally resonating 'whoops' that I seem to get when I enter their world. Also, there seems to be a two-day abstainment period required for me to conjure them, which makes it a little difficult to study them.

I've never seen an "entity" on DMT.
At least not something I can call an intelligent sentient life form that wanted to communicate.
And yet, thats what I expected to see every time.

I've seen the "elves". They were more like fractal machines than willful entities. But who knows because its tough to say if two people mean the same thing when they say "elves".

My deepest experience was unlike anything I had imagined it would be. It was far better than my wildest dreams.

one of my friends last nite saw an ancient egyptian god. she also said there were hundreds of the eye of horus looking at her. she founds pics on the net an said it was the god seth that she saw.

I made up a spicey smoking mix that containes damiana, caapi vine and 10% brugmansia flower.
Slower launch, nice visuals, persisting afterglow all seemed like a nice mix. The feeling of dark entities in my waking life days after frightened me, also demonic flashes while dreaming. The doors were left adjar and it is important to close them shut afterwards. Burning frankinsence/ myrrh & copal insence, I smudged myself with palo santo wood smoke to dispel whatever followed me back, it seemed to do the trick.
Its easy to see why the tropane containing solanaceous plants were associated with witchcraft and dark entities.

My wife just went on a voyage in which she saw a clown...it was an ordinary circus clown that was just dancing in front of her. She became upset because, well, clowns are not her thing and the female entity that she saw on her first trip removed the clown and comforted her by stroking her hair and giving her a massage. Granted, she has heard many people tell their of their hyperspace travels so one cannot rule out influence.

If you trip with somebody, it is very likely that your trips will affect eachother. I often came to the conclusion that i had the same sort of visions as the person i was with at the time. I don't know how it works, but there's a lot of nonverbal communication going on, so it's not that strange that many people have the same experiences.

And what exactly do you mean, Acolon 5, saying clowns are not her thing? Some people may be rather offended to hear that.

HA! Somehow I knew you'd pipe up on this one!

Sorry, personally I love the clowns. For some reason, some people just have a fear of them.

SWIM once, using ayahuasca, experienced contact with the great spirit of our sun, the earth, all of the nearby heavenly bodies out there, and felt God's presence.

Their souls did not have bodies like ours do, they were made of pure consciousness energy and SWIM could feel their presence in a 3D field. It is extremely difficult to explain using human language. Their spirits were massive and proportionate to size of the heavenly bodies they inhabit.

In the vision, the spirit of the Sun was immensely complex and able to monitor every single atom in it’s domain. It could feel all the cells in my body, the earth, the moon, etc. It was conscious of all we are doing. The spirit was extremely wise and knew far more than all of humanity. It has the ability to think things into existence, just like God. But it is not God, it is merely a massive spirit that has been around for millions of years.

According to the spirit of the Sun, we are all given a chance to be promoted when we die, and that being a Sun is one of the highest forms of physical life there is. It felt honored to be a Sun and had nothing but love for humanity. It sent messages to me, not of words, but of thoughts, that all of us get reincarnated and we either go up to the next level, stay at our level, or get demoted after we die, and that being a Sun required a proven tract record that spans millions of years.

After “talking” with the Sun, SWIM met God and was utterly blown away. God’s consciousness was the size of the universe, the experience was completely mind boggling and unexplainable in words. So I’ll stop here, because I can’t explain what SWIM experienced in the presence of God. It is like attempting to explain infinity, timelessness, endlessness, the complexities of a trillion billion spirits. God is massive in energy and totally unexplainable. God’s thoughts are manifested in creation of stars, beings, destruction of whole sections of the universe, God’s thoughts are massive and so complex that even all the scientists of all time would never ever come close to having 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the knowledge of God.

This was perhaps the most spiritual voyage SWIM ever had. It wasn’t a bunch of fancy colors or anything like that. SWIM believes he made real contact with these spirits and God and was told things by God about SWIM's future and all of the things happened within a few weeks. These were things that were completely impossible to predict. This convinced SWIM it was actually God in his vision.

From time to time, SWIM doesn’t believe it, and thinks it couldn’t be, where’s the proof? It could all be SWIM’s imagination, but then again, so could this forum, and you guys reading this message could also all be SWIM’s imagination. There’s no way to prove something is real. We either accept what we see as real, or we don’t. There’s no way to prove what we see is real or imagined.

I had like Warrensaged read too much about DMT when I first tried it but only heard of the elves, the praying mantis and some alien stuff. But what I encountered was a Egyptian God-like entity and some female Shive/Vishnu style like entity with a split tounge and crazy deep staring eyes that I just couldn't look into. It was deep into hyperspace I noticed this female swirling around me but it was like many but they were all one. Like they were many but I figured that it was all the same entity. It was making these crazy lookin mandalas from herself with her hands. Everytime I looked at it I felt like my soul was getting sucked into it. I felt like this entity was trying to trick me to give her my energy. But I resisted and everthing then dissolved and I was suddenly in a totally different place.

That was my closest encounter with a hyperspace being and it was the coolest shit I've ever seen! And these mandalas were just impossibe! Totally mindblowing!



p.s. Warrensaged!
Hypnotoad is in Futurama

Yes Acolon 5, I am well aware some people dont like clowns. Believe it or not, my mother is one such person, with a real and genuine phobia. This often make for a very frought relationship with her.

I am very glad to hear people do see clowns. I very frequently find my self in a kind of carnivalesque space with a central, erotic, dancing, elfine shiva type goddess. She dances and twirls and beckons me closer. I am entranced by her, turned on. I feel if she is to touch me down there. I shall instantly spray my shorts. She knows this too. She teases and gently mocks me and I like the way she does it. All around her is an amazing burlesque carnival. Every where I look, machine elve performers are playing, showing off, morphing from one odd and bizzare charachter or machine to another. I am never sure exactly what they are doing or how they do it but I feel I can see their universe's versions of jugglers, clowns, stilt walkers, trapezists, animal trainers, acrobats etc.

The carnival, fair ground with the centeral dancing goddess is one of my more frequent reccurring visions but it is not my favourite journey. Allthough sexy and tremendously visually exciting, it dosn't provoke me as much as the Aliens do.

My Alien journeys are far less predictable. Often they show me things about this or their universe. Things so peculiar and unexpected my rational finds it much harder to cope or explain. Where as the carnival is warm and inviting, the Aliens are often cold and discompassionate. They take me the way they want me I have no ability to resist them. They may bother to communicate telepathicaly with me, to explain what they are doing but other times they make no such effort. I am totally at their mercy. I can't resist them when they do their awfull experiaments on me. When they open me up and probe me, insert their machines and god knows what else. I'm terrified by them when they do this. I never get used to it, there is always some new and unimagined horror about to unfold.

Eventually they do give me some reassurance that I have not been harmed. They sort of thank me explaining it is necessary and the deal is, on other journeys, I get to see things no other human has ever seen. And that is so fucking true! I have seen colours that don't exist in this universe. I have seen the farms where gravity is harvested. I have seen light beams being solidified into chunks of matter and then been infused with life. I have been assured, there is lots lots more to see too!

That's right, all that magic circus stuff is just the veil and it gets far freakier. I used to get these futuristic mirrored rooms/hallways and their was this mischevous, bordering on evil looking Harlequin showing me this crystaline mirrored ball, multifacited and amazing, he would roll this ball towards me all the while smiling really intensely and the mirrored floor would crack underneath the ball as he and the ball got closer, it was weird shit. Alot of the times It's like a cross between a cross between a 9th dimensional circus/casino/windowlicker video clip but theres always other overtones there, like this is all just a show to mezmirize you from wahts really going on.

Or sometimes you'd get this demonic thing smiling at you, not demonic like from books or movies, that shits tame. When I saw this thing it felt like it was casually obsvering a lesser being (me) and even though it could crush me like an ant it was just smiling at me but I sensed this demon lord or whatever the hell had sereious manevlolent undertones.

This was something when you saw it kinda was a gasp of fear and then you have to open your eyes. I heard Mckenna once mention that magic is real, and it really is real in those in those worlds! But theres some magic in those places that feels so powerful and so somehow enchating or seductive that you can really get sucked into some weird shit.


As for the aliens, their certainly intelligent and whatnot but I sense that they don't give two shits about you. Your just like an experiment and I got detached/scientific almost cruel vibe em . However here's whats weird though, they genuinley find you or your body but most probably your soul fascinating. It's like theirs something you possess that they just go gagga over hence all that fucked up experimantion to find out more. And that's whats damn scary is ,if we really do possess a soul thats eternal or whatnot I don't want no alien fucking up mine, probing/disecting and tagging it. And that's whats troubling with DMT, it takes you, no rips and thrusts you into certain places that maybe we shouldn't be entering. Kinda like when a little kitty enters onto a busy highway or somehow manages to get over a backyard fence only to be confronted by two badass doberman's.

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age."
h.p.lovecraft

well folks, don't you worry! hohohohahahahehehehihihi

I read alot about DMT and the experiences before trying it. I've never seen entities to this point let alone talking to one.

The only thing I've ever seen is a sort of giant squid with hundreds of tentacles trying to get in my head and in the same time trying to convince me to come further making the 'come here' sign. It's the only way I can describe it...

Maybe I didn't get far enough yet...

So my best guess is that there is something for everyone (although I never thought about squids before I entered hyperspace).

Aaahh...welcome to the unconcious world...

Yes, bezz:
“Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn!!!”

To be honest, we can’t know, if the ”hyperspacebeeings” are malign or benign.
Even if we studied them for many years:
Sometimes we think, their goal is, to destroy us.
Sometimes we think, they want to teach us, how to survive.
Sometimes we think, that both options are the same in the end...*:-o*

I believe, they need US for their (!) evolution, just as how we need THEM for our evolution.

It must be so. They wouldn’t try to attract us in the way they do it, as soon as we meet them, if where wouldn’t be a ”use” for them to excite our attention.
But, on the other hand: do they really try to “excite our attention“? Are they really curious about us? We are curious, logo, but are they?
And: is their behaviour motivated by any “intention“ at all, like we humans use to have intentions and like we expect advantages, then we do something?
And last but not least: are ”they” real at all, or is the dmt-expierince just a crazy brainfuck in the end?
We must admit: we know nothing!

Oh yeah, your right!!


WS

[quote=gosvami]Yes, bezz:
“Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn!!!”


???

This is hyperspace-language *g* and means (more or less):
In a golden city, called R’lyeh, on the deepest ground of the ocean, sleeps Cthulhu, waiting and dreaming of his arising on earth to rule the world again.


Hey, didn’t you ever read anything from h.p.lovecraft?

Every dmt-psychonaut should read Allen Watts, Gordon Wasson, Timothy Leary, William Burroughs, Terence McKenna, Daniel Pinchbeck, Rick Strassman and Graham Hancock, that’s true! (And you should read the words of Buddha, Christus, Mohamed, Krishna, Krishnamurti, and Rudolf Steiner as well! Also you should study the ancient myths of the nature peoples and their shamans, the myths of the Greek’s and Egypt’s. And don’t forget the kabala, the hermeneutic and the gnosis!!! Read this stuff to get a better understanding, what the dmt-experience means….)

But above all: read Howard Phillips Lovecraft!
This is the greatest trash of all!

Did you never hear something about Cthulhu, Azathoth, Shub-Niggurath, Nyarlathotep (the creeping chaos), Yog-Sothoth (the doorway/the gate), the old race (or the elder things), the Shoggoths, the star-spawn and the deep ones????
You really never heard about them and really never saw them?
Holy shit! I can’t believe...