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#21 Posted : 5/19/2010 12:01:11 AM
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The robitussin gel caps seem to give the robo-itch pretty commonly, though that can usually be avoided pretty easily by taking a small to medium dose of an antihistamine, like diphenhydramine (Benadryl) or chlorpheniramine. However: DO NOT TAKE IT WITH NON-DROWSY ANTIHISTAMINES LIKE CLARITIN, ZYRTEC, OR SELDANE. That's a no-no. You need the old antihistamines like benadryl that leave you feeling a bit sleepy. Boom, no robo itch.
 

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#22 Posted : 5/19/2010 2:45:28 AM

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I drank a bottle of Tussin Max one time when I was bored. Interesting trip until I realized I was one second away from spewing red-colored vomit all over my room. That was fun to clean up.
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#23 Posted : 5/19/2010 3:13:01 AM
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So basically it's boring with a few slightly interesting aspects, and you might suffer a severe, possibly fatal reaction. You guys are all talking about taking 300mg and not liking it a lot - that girl in the link nearly died on 300mg after trying it a few times previously. I took 300mg and had a most unpleasant 'trip' (more like poisoning) lasting nearly 4 days. I tried it in lower doses (up to 100mg) and didn't suffer anything too terrible. On the whole, I'd have to say this seems like a shitty drug. I'd smoke crack before I'd even consider trying it again. Yet some people take MONUMENTAL doses of this stuff.
 
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#24 Posted : 5/19/2010 4:03:39 AM

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Crisp wrote:
So basically it's boring with a few slightly interesting aspects, and you might suffer a severe, possibly fatal reaction. You guys are all talking about taking 300mg and not liking it a lot - that girl in the link nearly died on 300mg after trying it a few times previously. I took 300mg and had a most unpleasant 'trip' (more like poisoning) lasting nearly 4 days. I tried it in lower doses (up to 100mg) and didn't suffer anything too terrible. On the whole, I'd have to say this seems like a shitty drug. I'd smoke crack before I'd even consider trying it again. Yet some people take MONUMENTAL doses of this stuff.


I had a gram of DXM. What you need to do is make sure there is no acetaminophen in it.
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#25 Posted : 5/19/2010 4:24:36 AM
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Well I had 300mg of dxm and I made SURE there was no acetaminophen or anything else in it, and it sounds like that girl in the report did too. DXM ITSELF CAN DO THESE THINGS BAD THINGS, and in lowish doses.
 
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#26 Posted : 5/19/2010 4:39:56 PM

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Well I had 300mg of dxm and I made SURE there was no acetaminophen or anything else in it, and it sounds like that girl in the report did too. DXM ITSELF CAN DO THESE THINGS BAD THINGS, and in lowish doses.


I've heard of bad trips with DXM but only because of acetaminophen being involved. Large doses of it cause liver damage. Otherwise I guess dxm just isn't for you.
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#27 Posted : 5/19/2010 7:50:38 PM
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It certainly isn't for me, and I doubt it is for a lot of other people too. People metabolize it differently. Be careful.
 
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#28 Posted : 5/20/2010 9:56:28 PM
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A couple years ago I used DXM very frequently sometimes more than 3 times a week but didn't have any health issues whatsoever. I was even on Effexor at the time. Looking back, I don't know how I did it. Now DXM feels very strange and is something I would never consider using more than a couple times a year.
The most interesting aspect for me would be the experience of music under the influence. Closing your eyes with headphones on can bring you to some far out places, you can literally become the music. Also while playing an FPS I lost all touch with my body and just had slight sensations in my hands while I controlled the avatar.

Other than experiencing some interesting effects like those, DXM is too inebriating to do much else. It can be a very gross feeling or it can be really warm euphoric feeling.
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#29 Posted : 5/21/2010 1:54:51 AM
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Reports of First Plateau and Second Plateau doses from friends indicate that in their experience, using cannabis together with DXM completely eliminates any of the "gross" feeling if it's present, and increases the euphoric aspect of it.

I don't know of any reports from people combining cannabis with Third or Fourth Plateau doses, or with the Plateau Sigma technique.

I like the quote from the extensive DXM manual discussed above. About 1/3 of people love DXM, about 1/3 hate it, and about 1/3 don't really care about it one way or the other. Of the 1/3 who enjoy it, there are some who are mature and use it responsibly (for serious introspective purposes, or for the euphoria), but there are some who love it so much that they abuse it like an opiate. It can become rather psychologically habit forming if someone uses it every day or every other day. However, responsible use of it for the euphoric effects is possible. I know a friend who robo trips up to the second plateau every few weeks or so, just for the sheer fun of it, and loves every trip. However, she reports that she has no interest in using it more often.

So, the effects of DXM differ hugely from person to person.
 
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#30 Posted : 5/24/2010 6:44:01 AM

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Ive smoked a fair bit of cannabis on a 3rd plateau trip; it added a subtle pleasurable enhancment to the head effect but did nothing in terms of ameliorating the body load at all.Also, at this level, I prudently rolled a few before taking the DXM because at plateau 3 I was incapable of building a joint mainly due to the impossibilty of seening what I was doing with sufficient accuracy and hand-eye coordination had gone for a long lunchbreak!
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#31 Posted : 6/14/2010 5:35:52 PM
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do not let anyone talk you out of it. you must try it for yourself, some people love it while others dont. One piece of advice is that you must start with a second plateau dose because first time users always seem to feel the intoxicating feeling much more rendering them unable to even walk. Ive done every dose except a sigma which i do not plan on doing. If you do like it, a 4th plateau dose can be very spiritual and even cause an ego loss which is always great if directed properly. freebase will also really help making it a pure and clean trip
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#32 Posted : 6/14/2010 8:06:08 PM
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Actually, DO LET people talk you out of it if their argument sounds reasonable to you. If you read what I said in my posts in this thread and still want to give it a go that's up to you of course. I will NEVER consider trying it again.
 
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#33 Posted : 6/14/2010 8:14:23 PM

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Out of curiosity I did just under half a bottle of a DXM containing 20mg/tsp (high as far as cough syrups go). Was neither pleasant nor unpleasant. I felt light and floaty, but heavy and bound by inertia at the same time if that makes any sense!

I did have the strong impreion that the stuff could get VERY unpleasnt VERY fast. So I won,t be touching it gain. I posted this elsewhere (not in this thread i hope!), but if you are interested in DXM, read Dan carpenter,s book "a psychonaut's guide to the inner landscape".

Keep in mind he hung himself a year after writing the book...

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EDIT: looks like i did post it in this thread. OOOPPPS!Smile
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#34 Posted : 6/23/2010 2:38:47 AM

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I did this for a period of like 4 months nearly every day as a dumb teenager. I would describe the effects very much like K, MDMA, and possibly LSD all put into one. I've heard it can be real damaging for your brain, so I would research that a bit more. Without a doubt though, this is one very powerful drug that should be respected.
 
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#35 Posted : 6/23/2010 3:01:36 AM

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Damnit, I dont want to screw my brain up but some reports make DXM seem very appealing..im not about to drink robitussin though..
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#36 Posted : 6/23/2010 6:48:57 AM

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I did this for a period of like 4 months nearly every day as a dumb teenager. I would describe the effects very much like K, MDMA, and possibly LSD all put into one. I've heard it can be real damaging for your brain, so I would research that a bit more. Without a doubt though, this is one very powerful drug that should be respected.


That seems an odd things to say, I had a deep discussion with a friend about life on 550mg of DXM and I didn't feel any closer or more empathic (like MDMA) On over a dozen trips I've never had any OEVs or strong CEVs (like LSD)

It is a dissociative with it's own flavor (duration and body effects) like GHB, Nitrous, Ketamine or (I'm assuming) PCP, that is a fact.

I've never been to the "third plateau" but of course that is akin to a K-hole in intensity but with DXM, a friend has gone straight into the third and described it as incredibly scary, unpleasant and he NEVER wants to try it again, this is a guy who does MDMA most weekends BTW.

I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying my experience directly contradicts your statements.
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#37 Posted : 6/23/2010 7:23:22 AM

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DXM can be a little like MDMA but only at pretty low doses-many a raver in the UK has had 'trippy Es' which are just DXM.

Plateau 3 and upwards are closer to ketamine at a K-Hole dose than anything else;K is just shorter in duration and feels cleaner.

I would say the visual effects at any plateau do not resemble LSD (or DMT/psilocybin/mescaline) in any shape or form.DXM is visually inferior to all 4 of these.

No doubt about it, it is powerful stuff but when on it, you know its just not a healthy pursuit at all.....
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#38 Posted : 7/5/2010 12:31:15 AM

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Used it for a short period of time. Maybe 6 or so times. Swore off on it though as I began craving its effects more than I felt was comfortable. Doses were usually pretty high between 11-13 mg/Kg body mass.

Effects of it are completely different from each other based on what "PLATEAU" your on. The plateau usually depends on how heavily dosed you are. The effects felt at the higher doses induced chaotic and unbelievably strong delirium and hallucinations. One experience left me believing that I was god of a different realm and that life and energy was running out each time I would become sober. I was soaring through space launched faster than the speed of light utilizing the energy from the nearest supernova to send me to a place where there was this "CUBE". It was made entirely of organic material where at the middle of one side of it burst out trillions of little multi-colored strings of light that I understood to be the energy of "life". Apparently it was a co-existence of my own divine self, but acted more as a nexus or connection from this new higher dimension and the mortal world. I clearly remember that all living things were connected to these fine "life strings", humans having being connected to about 12 "strings" each to individual teeth. Intense stuff.

DXM is an addictive semi-synthetic opiate with little effects similar to any opiates. Its that reason I'm pretty sure its even "okay" to discuss here. My recommendation is to stay away from it. Its been about 7 months since the last time I used, and even to this day my previous trips have a grasp on me like I would not have imagined 8 or so months ago.

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#39 Posted : 7/9/2010 2:05:34 AM
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Define "addictive." I don't think lab animals self-administer DXM the way they do with cocaine, heroin, or caffeine.
 
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#40 Posted : 7/9/2010 3:01:05 AM

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abc1234560 wrote:
DXM is an addictive semi-synthetic opiate with little effects similar to any opiates. !



"Sometimes people get confused because DXM's stereoisomer (basically, the mirror image molecule), called levomethorphan, is an opiate. In two dimensions the molecules look identical, but in three dimensions, they are mirror images of each other. DXM no more fits into opiate receptors than a left-hand threaded screw will fit into a right-hand threaded nut.

In fact, DXM doesn't bind at any opiate receptors, doesn't have opiate painkilling effects, and isn't cross-tolerant with opiates. It is only out of sheer chance that when DXM was invented, its origins were among the opiates; DXM's cough suppressant effects are completely different in mechanism from the cough suppressant effects of opiates."

http://www.lycaeum.org/d...xm/faq/general_info.html



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