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#1 Posted : 3/5/2016 4:14:30 AM
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I have 1.2 grams of yellow powdered DMT. I am not very experienced with this substance. I have done it maybe 8 times total. I use a bubble/oil burner. Is it normal to be extremely nervous to do this every time? I have been searching for this substance for almost 8 years before I finally did it for the first time last year and I think I have had 1 breakthrough experience. After the first hit when it starts coming on I dont even know how a lighter or a pipe works anymore. How do you take multiple hits?? Am I wasting it by not taking more hits? One big hit takes me to such an intense state. WOW what a substance this is. Its unbeleivable to me that this stuff even exists.

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#2 Posted : 3/5/2016 6:59:05 AM

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Yes it is absolutely normal to get the pre flight jitters every time, no matter how many times you do it. You can tone it down by your set and setting, and some meditation before hand but there's really no way to prepare for what's to come.
You can also try changa by incorporating harmala alkaloids that will slow the onset a tad and also prolong it a bit.

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#3 Posted : 3/5/2016 7:39:42 AM
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Great advice. I have never been much of a meditation person but I think that If i calm down beforehand, take some deep breaths and calm my mind beforehand it will help alot. I have heard of changa alot, how would you go about infusing the leaves? What do you use as the leaves? and would it be worth it to use only like a gram of crystal?
 
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#4 Posted : 3/5/2016 8:03:51 AM

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The wiki is your friend here.

You will find everything changa here.

As for meditation, I'm not big on it either but I do find that it helps before the journey.

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#5 Posted : 3/5/2016 1:16:36 PM
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I first heard of DMT when I was about 13, later, when I was around 16, my meditation instructor gives me a copy of "the archaic revival" by terence mckenna.

After that point I was on a quest to experiance this substance...

The first time I smoked DMT, this happened:
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the first time I smoked DMT I consumed 200mgs, light-yellow translucent Dimethyltryptamine crystals on top of high-grade marijuana, I cleared the DMT as well as the marijuana in a single breath, and before I could exhale (or even count to 5) I was in an overwhelming state of intense psychedelia. Visually the world was not recognizable, time ceased to exist, I remember going into a panic, thinking "get this shit out of me!" And exhaling as rapidly as possible...but it was too late. I remember looking around, I was at the bottom of a foggy mountain with dirt roads, I was overcome with an intense feeling of panic and deja-vu, I felt like a lost child, everything I knew about who I was or my life or earth seemed like a distant dream, like I dissolved out of existence, I interpreted this as dying, I knew that I was dead, and I was emotionally overwhelmed while confronting the event of my death...at first you want to reach out for help, you think "call the fire department, or I need to call my family", but you quickly realize it's just you and death and you have to come to terms with it alone. I could not tell if I was breathing or not, I would take air in, but couldn't feel it, I then noticed a pain in my chest, a giant mantis like being had its claws in my chest, it proceeded to tear open my chest and stomach removing all my organs and insides, I was about to go into shock when I saw a bright green light flash over my shoulder, it nearly hit me, it then became a beautiful geometric object,a glowing stone or jewel, morphing and color changing. The mantis then put this object in my torn up corpse. The mantis then began to make billions of these objects, each one unique and radiating beautiful colored light, and my hollowed out corpse was filled with them, replacing all the organs that had been removed. Then I was sealed up in a burning flash of red light, and my newly rebuilt body was propelled into an orange light where I was resurrected...then I felt as if I was being pushed through a membrane, I was being born....then back to reality....those who were there said in reality I curled up into a ball and began to cry for 15 minutes, I was wondering why my face was wet, because it felt like I had actually just went through being born...any way the immense deep spiritual and psychological implications of this experience left me for ever transformed, reborn as a new person entirely, it was the single most meaningful thing that has ever happened to me.


Honestly after my first time I thought "holy duck, conscious existance after death is real, and this stuff gives you access to it!" I also thought "terence mckenna is full of shit!" And "I'm never fucking doing that again!"

I did since return to DMT, but it scares me every time!

Like mckenna said
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nobody ever went into an Ashram with their knees knocking in fear
over the tremendous dimension they knew they were about to enter through
meditation.” Still truer, and more sad, is the notion that very few of us pick up
our sculpting tools or our airbrush with our knees knocking with fear because we
know we are invoking and acting with the muse at our elbow -mckenna


My "knees are knocking in fear" every time before I confront DMT.

I always have an issue remembering what life was when I'm in the flash...

I'll quit my rambling, but I will say I'm just as sensitive to DMT, and it's always one of the only things that can actually instill such a fear in me...it also teaches, and does many other things...

...but I think it would be abnormal if it didn't shake you up.

-eg
 
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#6 Posted : 3/5/2016 8:10:20 PM
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Great reply! Wow what a trip, the power of this stuff is unreal
 
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#7 Posted : 3/5/2016 10:45:43 PM

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From my sofa after few giant hits, I was transported back to what was presented to me as myself as I was maybe thousand years ago. I was one of the native people of South America. Experience of that was real as this moment now. So real that if that was fake and unreal, than this is too. I was sitting on some stone in the forest, my skin was brown, I was looking at my body, it was slim and vigorous in perfect shape.

Then I can talk about my most recent breakthrough where two insane hits made reality tear itself like a nylon sheet, and reveal dimension of light and bliss with sun like form made of many entities greeted me. When I was back just enough to have recollection of who I am as I am now, I was totally flabbergasted. I usually ask myself when I'm sober: is the DMT realm what awaits me after death? Now, it was blatantly shouted at me: "You see it? You realize it? You are dead now, this is death! Happy now? You should be!"

I do understand how amazed you are now. I was too. But you are only at the beginning of your journey, and interesting road is certainly upon you. Yes, pre flight anxiety is always there, but to me, it is the good thing to have, as the Divine Molecule deserves respect. Just be respectful to the Molecule, and every lesson you receive, and everything will be fine. And believe me, divinities of Hyperspace look after us as parents after children. They love you. <3

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#8 Posted : 3/6/2016 1:14:46 PM
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DiMiTreeZ wrote:
Great reply! Wow what a trip, the power of this stuff is unreal


This happened in 2012, and it took a few years before I was able to articulate it into a story, honestly after it first happened it was hard to say anything at all about it, there was no language for what I wanted to express...

It was also fairly traumatic, the people there watching said I curled up in a ball and began to cry, there was wild gesticulating, screaming, crying, rolling on the ground, etc...I still get mild PTSD symptoms when retelling the story...Though at the same time it transformed me in so many positive ways, I was agnostic before DMT, now I'm committed to a spiritual practice, I used to suffer from mild depression, which since vanished and has not returned, and most importantly I understand life, and death, in a personal and deep way, I no longer fear death because I have a pretty good idea of what death is, I've been through the bardo via DMT.

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...and strangely enough, my first and most intense DMT experiences we induced by translucent yellow crystal DMT, which I'm sure is what you have as well, only it's been smashed into a powder.

I just saw a good deal of similarities between your story and my own, even down to the yellow DMT.

Keep exploring, be careful, and good luck!

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#9 Posted : 3/6/2016 9:15:29 PM
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Holy shit man, isnt 200 mgs for your first time dose like really really excessive? That takes some serious balls. But the experience you had was invaluable in so many ways. I had a near death experience in 2010 that changed me exactly how you describe your DMT trip changed you, could lend credence to the fact that our bodies pump DMT at the point of death or near death. It wasnt very psychadelic but lots of spiritul guides, telepathy, being able to communicate with nature and trees, it was pretty much half light and good and half dark and evil with demonic entities as well. Anyways this changed me forever, I now have spiritual beleifs where before this happened I did not. I just didnt know any better and never really put alot of thought into it. Now Im almost positive about what will happen at death, and its not going to be going unconscious for an eternity.
 
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#10 Posted : 3/7/2016 6:17:48 PM
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Holy shit man, isnt 200 mgs for your first time dose like really really excessive? That takes some serious balls. But the experience you had was invaluable in so many ways. I had a near death experience in 2010 that changed me exactly how you describe your DMT trip changed you, could lend credence to the fact that our bodies pump DMT at the point of death or near death. It wasnt very psychadelic but lots of spiritul guides, telepathy, being able to communicate with nature and trees, it was pretty much half light and good and half dark and evil with demonic entities as well. Anyways this changed me forever, I now have spiritual beleifs where before this happened I did not. I just didnt know any better and never really put alot of thought into it. Now Im almost positive about what will happen at death, and its not going to be going unconscious for an eternity.



Yeah, 200mgs (0.20g) is an incredibly high dose, for my first time, looking back, it seems insane...but I don't regret it.

...I'm always honest when telling others what happened, I don't try to hide the difficult and traumatic aspects of the experiance.

I always use high dose, though I can't say that I recommend anyone try this.

I'm of the opinion that DMT gives you access to death, without your physical body dying.

In Buddhism there's a place which is after death, but before reincarnation, this place is called the bardo, and it's not necessarily a safe place, the Tibetan book of dead goes into detail regarding these in between states and bardos, and can be used as a guide to the DMT flash as well as physical death.

while in a meningitis induced coma in 2008, a neurosurgeon, Dr. Eben Alexander, had a near death experience, because of the bacterial meningitis he should have had absolutely no brain function, yet this man returns from his near death experiance and zero brain function with a story that could have came from Dr. Rick strassman's "DMT the spirit molecule" patient reports.

I'm not necessarily sure that endogenous DMT plays a role in the chemistry of death, while this is a possibility, I don't believe it's ever been confirmed, however I think DMT gives you access to death itself, which is why it's not surprising that the Tibetan book of the dead, and near death experiances, and in fact any experiance we have involving the conscious experiance of death and return to a living physical body is identical to the dimethyltryptamine flash...

...Though this is just my personal opinion...actually if you listen to what DMT using shamans have been saying all along it perfectly coincides with my conclusions...

Though nobody had to tell me DMT gives you access to death, after I inhaled 200mgs in a single breath, there was no way to deny where I was, I knew it was death, and I also knew I had been there several times before...

...here's the thing though, it only gives you access to the bardo, to this place that's after death, but before reincarnation or eternal paradise or damnation as the monotheistic faiths believe, or what ever happens, you never see what lays beyond the bardo, your pulled back into your physical body before you can go any further, so it doesn't confirm anything except that conscious existance continues after the physical body dies...

I'll stop, I'm getting into some pretty subjective interpretations here, which are just my opinions.

Any way, keep exploring, but keep your head, be sure to be acting responsible and with respect, and try to get all that you can from your journeys, good luck!


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#11 Posted : 3/9/2016 12:54:34 AM

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I too, like entheogenic-gnosis, feel that psychedelics give us access to the bardo state...

I take this very seriously & have been employing psychedelic substances on a rather regular basis for 35+ years.

I was trained at the young age of 20 by a secluded, select, secret group of Buddhist monks who used psychedelics as spiritual sacraments & I have never been the same since (they dosed me with thousands of micrograms of LSD on a fairly regular basis along with intense, non-stop meditation excercises, pranayama breathing disciplines & various yogic practices).

I've also experienced actual physical death several times in this lifetime with amazing results.

For more on this subject of the bardo/after death state, I would highly recommend the book, "The Psychedelic Experience" by Leary, Metzner & Alpert. It is golden IMO.

DMT is a very sacred substance to me & should be highly respected & revered.

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#12 Posted : 3/9/2016 1:50:32 PM
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Doc Buxin wrote:
I too, like entheogenic-gnosis, feel that psychedelics give us access to the bardo state...

I take this very seriously & have been employing psychedelic substances on a rather regular basis for 35+ years.

I was trained at the young age of 20 by a secluded, select, secret group of Buddhist monks who used psychedelics as spiritual sacraments & I have never been the same since (they dosed me with thousands of micrograms of LSD on a fairly regular basis along with intense, non-stop meditation excercises, pranayama breathing disciplines & various yogic practices).

I've also experienced actual physical death several times in this lifetime with amazing results.

For more on this subject of the bardo/after death state, I would highly recommend the book, "The Psychedelic Experience" by Leary, Metzner & Alpert. It is golden IMO.

DMT is a very sacred substance to me & should be highly respected & revered.

Be full of care.

Peace


I once gave DMT to a meditation instructor of mine, and was told this:

This [DMT] is the The chikhai bardo or "bardo of the moment of death", which features the experience of the "clear light of reality"...This is the clear light"

In Quechua, "aya" means "dead" or "ghost" or "spirit", and "huasca" means vine, so ayahuasca is "the vine of the dead"

...so it must have been just as obvious to the ancient DMT users as it was to me in 2012, this stuff gives you access to death, without physically dying.

...consciousness exists everywhere , it's beyond the grave, it's on planets scattered across the stars, it's in other dimensions...

I'm glad that other modern users are able to reach similar conclusions.

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This is really interesting! The thing that trips me out is if it is death, why is death so colorful and beautiful patterns and fractals and all that? Doesnt that seem a little strange? I dont know why that seems strange to me, but it does
 
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This is really interesting! The thing that trips me out is if it is death, why is death so colorful and beautiful patterns and fractals and all that? Doesnt that seem a little strange? I dont know why that seems strange to me, but it does


Just a theory but I'm thinking that death is probably more beautiful than this life and making that transition is quite foreign to living beings. Perhaps death is the next step in life and it is feared because we don't, and can't, understand it until we actually die...just my .02
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Doc Buxin wrote:

I've also experienced actual physical death several times in this lifetime with amazing results.
Experience"

have you posted any details about this in the past? sounds interesting!





also, thanks for sharing your experiences/thoughts on dmt, entheogenic-gnosis, beautiful stuff.
 
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I get at least some anxiety every time i'm about to dose dmt... i consider it respect for the power of the spice, but yes it's entirely normal and probably just means you're sane.
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Yes death, I guess a lot of people have experienced that at some point while smoalking spice? I did not write a report, but beginning of this year, when my family was gone, I thought I make the most of the time and was pushing hard for several days with good experiences. But not as powerful as I wanted or had in the past. So one day, I guess I got a sign to take a break, I ingnored it, increased the dose, and got another hint, just stronger. I ignored it again, increased the dose again (60mg white xtals through a gvg) and....hit a wall pretty hard, access denied. An then I thought that's it, game over. I overdid it. Never in my life did I experience the fear of death, but this time I did, I was convinced I just killed myself. 10 minutes later, I regain conciousness. I felt so much peace, I was very quite. No euphoria, but a lot of happiness. Never have I appreciated life as I have in the hours after..... Just happy and content to be
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This is really interesting! The thing that trips me out is if it is death, why is death so colorful and beautiful patterns and fractals and all that? Doesnt that seem a little strange? I dont know why that seems strange to me, but it does


I think "the grateful one" hit the nail on the head...

it seems being entangled with a physical body entails a degree of naiveté and ignorance regarding the true nature of conscious existance...

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inaniel wrote:
Doc Buxin wrote:

I've also experienced actual physical death several times in this lifetime with amazing results.
Experience"

have you posted any details about this in the past? sounds interesting!



I don't honestly remember inaniel...

I'm pretty sure I have posted a story here or there regarding my "Pure White Light Of The Source" experience from one of the times my heart has stopped completely...

When I'm on the nexus, I simply just try to post things relevant to the OP & the subject matter at hand.
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...if it is death, why is death so colorful and beautiful patterns and fractals and all that? Doesnt that seem a little strange? I dont know why that seems strange to me, but it does...



That is exactly why I am recommending the book "The Psychedelic Experience" by Leary, Metzner & Alpert. It is a version of the Tibetan Book Of The Dead.

According to The Tibetan Book Of The Dead, the after-death/bardo states are quite overwhelming, both beautifully & horrifically, to the uninitiated & the unpracticed. The whole gist being that, when you die, the visions you react to emotionally determine your next incarnation.

The ultimate goal being to not react to any of the visions, whether beautiful or horrifying, keeping calm & serene & therefore ultimately passing into total mergance with our Source or The Void or The White Light or whatever one would like to label the utmost transcendant state of being/non-being.
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