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Eeegor
#1 Posted : 12/20/2015 4:44:05 PM

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Firstly: Wow! There is a lot of good experience materials here in "First steps" category.

I'm even quite embarrassed to post mine. Very happy

PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind) Set: Relaxed.
physical condition) Set: well fit, exercise 5 days a week.
Setting (location): Home, bedroom only with my cat.
time of day: 16:30 daylight.
recent drug use: 1L of beer, 36 hours later, 60g of refined sugar 4 hours later.
last meal: 14:40 Kibbeh nayyeh(raw meat with bulgur), chicken, pão de queijo (baked, cheese-flavored, rolls).

PARTICIPANT
Gender: m
body weight: 78Kg
known sensitivities: Crustaceans meat.
history of use: First time with entheogens of any kind.

BIOASSAY
Substance(s): DMT.
Dose(s): 50mg(!).
Method of administration: snorted (it hurt a little, creating some discomfort. Planned to snort 100mg(!) but the initial pain doesnt allowed me).

EFFECTS
Administration time: 1-2 seconds.
Duration: 12 minutes.
First effects: 0:50
Peak: 1:10 - 1:50
Come down: 3:00-5:00
Baseline: an hour.
Intensity (overall): 4
Evaluation / notes: Quantity(dosage) does not mean quality(insights).

OPTIONAL
Pleasantness: 4
Implesantness: 4
Visual Intensity: 4

AFTER-EFFECTS
Hangover: 3 ; nausea, sweating, dizziness; for at least 15 minutes.
Afterglow: 4 ; a warm embrace, felt very safe, it seems that I felt a concentrated form of love during 2:00-3:00 minutes.

REPORT
I did a lot of researching about how to make DMT and after gathering all the ingredients to make it, using the lazy man's tek (with the most pure ingredients I could find and choosing the long walk), I made (after one batch just for tests, trials and errors) 20g of, what I think based on reports of this forum, good quality DMT.

From that 20grams I took >100mg to make a finer powder, I was planning to snort all that (Remembering that it was my first time to DMT or any entheogen!)

After watching "Cosmos" I decided to go to my bedroom and snort all of the 100mg powdered DMT, I'm full of questions but one in particular (not related to "Cosmos" ) I wanted to know with certain urgency: How can we evolve socially.

So I went to bed and, due to pain, could snort only half line of the powder.
10 seconds later I thought: "Where's the trip? Nothing happened...". After lying my head in the pillow and closing my eyes, my arms and legs almost immediatly (2-3 seconds) shut-off, I started to sweat a lot and could barely talk, so I was chanting a mantra in my head: (in portuguese)
"How can we evolve socially, please help us"
"How can we evolve socially, please help us"
"How can we evolve socially, please help us"
...

I felt, in the first minutes, that I was being taken in a hurry to a good / safe place, and then, out of nowhere I saw (what looks like) Ganesha (I'm an agnostic person) and she clearly blocked me to continue the travel, after that I was slowly coming back, feeling loved, cared in a cozy atmosphere. I felt very frustrated to be blocked, but then, slowly, I accepted that decision.

What I'd learned:
-Snort DMT powder is painfull, but the pain lasts few seconds (probably depends on how someone can deal with pain).
-Clearly being in an hurry and, specially, an overdosage does not mean the experience will be fruitful.
-Bad trips could happen with one who could not manage is feelings, sometimes I have sleep paralysis and, I think, that that helped me to train on how to manage my feelings when "dreaming".
-Cats feel, for sure, when some one is tripping.
-LOVE seems to be an answer (how/when to give/get are other specific questions).

Paraphrasing Liam Neeson in "Taken" (2008 ) Very happy
"- I don't know who you are
but I don't have to find you to LOVE you all"
LOVE, no matter what.
 

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Jees
#2 Posted : 12/20/2015 5:18:52 PM

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Thanks for sharing this, and that was good mantra Thumbs up

Ganesha is a remover of obstacles, so that is odd, but then again you were not very sure of the figurine being Ganesha? It could also have been a manifestation of a part of yourself that found a reason to interrupt. Just guessing though.
 
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#3 Posted : 12/20/2015 6:41:55 PM

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At the time I didn't know who it was, after some research I found that was Ganesha, and, by the little of what I learned, she is indeed, among other tasks, the lord of obstacles, not to only remove it but also to put it when needed too.

It was my first time, with an high dosage, in such an hurry that maybe I was too reckless to find answers, next time I'll contain me a little more.
LOVE, no matter what.
 
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#4 Posted : 12/20/2015 7:05:52 PM

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Okay thanks, well let's trust that Ganesha knows her business and all was in favor for you.
 
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#5 Posted : 12/20/2015 7:44:36 PM

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I've never snorted DMT before but was talking to someone on chat about it last night. The burn is usually what keeps people away from that ROA, but to each their own of course! I love hearing about people meeting deities especially ones that they may not be all too familiar with in everyday life. In my last encounter I thought I had lost my mind and was meeting God...it was very strange indeed.

But thanks for sharing your report! Good luck on any future endeavors!
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#6 Posted : 12/20/2015 8:19:50 PM

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I forgot to thank you Jees, sorry!!!
Thank you for your input!

My frustration later was replaced for the acceptance that it was really not my time, I wasn't in proper condition to full hyperspace.

Thank you too Grateful One! Next time, in a couple of days, I'll be more "placid", snort a smaller line and let it happen.
LOVE, no matter what.
 
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#7 Posted : 12/20/2015 8:25:28 PM

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Excellent report, and thanks for all the details!

Being a cat-lover-owner and respect greatly their spirit and wisdom, i'd love to hear more about the experience you had that made you conclude that cats KNOW when we're tripping. i completely agree; i've had more than one experience with my cat that proved she was aware i was traveling....she was also the best sitter and co-pilot i could've asked for.

thanks again Smile
 
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#8 Posted : 12/20/2015 9:00:30 PM

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Thank you Ducdevil!

She is a stray cat with classic tabby pattern pelage. Love

When I was preparing to snort she was trying to lick/bite my beard. (what?)

After I wake up she was between my legs, in the "loaf" position, looking at me with the pupils wide open at daylight.

I mixed a little of the DMT on her catnip later, but with inconclusive results.
LOVE, no matter what.
 
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#9 Posted : 12/21/2015 12:51:41 PM

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I mixed a little of the DMT on her catnip later, but with inconclusive results.

I do not believe this would do anything but the act itself I find highly alarming. To give any animal a psychedelic is only cruel as they do not posses the ability to recognise why what is happening to them is happening. I hope you see this and refrain from this in the future, it is one thing to take something knowing the ramifications, another to give to someone/something unbeknownst.
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#10 Posted : 12/21/2015 2:55:35 PM

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You're right JDSalinger.

Despite she's healthy as usual, it was (very) unwise of my part, I already apologized to her, from now on only catnip.

Thank you for your comment!
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#11 Posted : 12/21/2015 6:13:28 PM

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Wow
i am not going to roast you, but i was really saddened you would do that; no animal deserves that type of disrespect. please, never do that again. please.
 
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#12 Posted : 12/21/2015 6:28:53 PM

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#13 Posted : 12/21/2015 7:37:46 PM



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Please do NOT dose your cat with anything but cat nip. I guess you haven't seen the lab video of cats on LSD? I won't link it in here because the cats reaction is horrible.

KillaNoodles wrote:


How do you guys feel about DMT being someone's first entheogen?
I think it's a bit abrupt, but I'm a slow-and-steady kind of person.


It all depends on the person, the dose, and the overall context of it all. There is no way we could reasonably generalize and say that it is a "good" first entheogen or a "bad" first entheogen for people. It can be fine as someones first entheogen or not depending on a number of factors. Not everyone has to dive right into the deep end on a large dose their first time as well.



<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
 
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#14 Posted : 12/21/2015 7:51:33 PM

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Please do NOT dose your cat with anything but cat nip


What about Valerian Root though ?

I like cats, but don't get why they are worshiped for their "wisdom"....Wut?

Next time i would drop the mantra. At least in my experience, having an agenda gets you blocked.

Good luck!
 
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#15 Posted : 12/21/2015 9:12:09 PM



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I meant don't dose it with psychedelics Razz



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#16 Posted : 12/21/2015 11:14:29 PM

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It seems things are escalating a bit.

Yes, I will not give that infinitesimal dose mixed in catnip anymore, but I will not stop act recklessly, I'll not raise my cat inside a hermetic bubble, nor any beloved one, I do incosequent things and I will not stop to do such things.

What a sad, colorless, savourless life is, without taking risks with others.

- Once I threw my cousin in the pool, from the roof (against his will)
- 2 years ago I climbed a tall tree with my cat (against her will)
- Every time I see my nephew I throw him the higher I can (against her mother's will)

and many, many more things that seems reckless, inconsequent (orders of magnitude more than give 5-6 specks of DMT to my cat).
Today:
- That cousin is one of my closest friends (maybe the closest).
- My cat is on my lap right now, after declining that same tree (we live in a house and she can runaway any time she wants).
- Me and my sister love each other without doubt, my nephew always count the days to visit me.

Like they say: "what makes the poison is the dose"

I'm not an immaculate saint, and don't pretend, nor want, to be one. I want to err, to fell, to feel, to get dirty all with others, maybe I'm heedless, maybe I'm reckless, I want to live a happy life together. Big grin
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#17 Posted : 12/22/2015 7:49:56 AM



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This has nothing to do with being a saint

I honestly don't care what you do in your daily life (and I don't say this from a mean place.)

I'm just not for dosing animals with powerful psychedelics against their will.

...reason?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJEw3A_QO9o



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#18 Posted : 12/22/2015 9:17:32 AM

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KillaNoodles wrote:
ducdevil wrote:
Wow
i am not going to roast you, but i was really saddened you would do that; no animal deserves that type of disrespect. please, never do that again. please.


No, he should be roasted. Stupid and deplorable decision.


Agreed.

It's reminiscent of those kids that blow smoke into their cat/dog's faces after discovering marijuana for the first time.

And this is one of the most powerful psychedelics.Stop

As has been pointed out, it probably wouldn't do anything, but what if it had? How potentially terrifying and damaging to that little creature?

I'd bet the OP wouldn't do that after being Hyperslapped for the first time...
 
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universecannon wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJEw3A_QO9o

Ehh, that's not funny, poor kitty. Also, enough research has been done on DMT and cats, no need to perpetuate that garbage: https://scholar.google.c...q=cat+dimethyltryptamine

The only thing you are allowed to do is killing your free range cat ethically with a captive bolt pistol. Cats are a great source of protein and eating meat is natural. Oops, did I say cats? I mean pigs... pigs it was, not cats. Pigs deserve to be killed and eaten, but not cats. And don't dose both!
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Ufostrahlen wrote:
[...]And don't dose both!


One or the other, but never both!Stop


Imagine the trouble the two of them would cause in hyperspace together!


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(NB for those unable to detect irony, I do not advocate the dosing of any creature without consent.)

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