I figured this was a worthy topic for a new person. I love to ask this question to people I meet that have experience in hyperspace, why I really figure this a worthy topic is because I have seen the elves, but not how they are normally described IMLE.

During one of the last few blast offs I had left available at the time I had my first breakthrough experience in which I did find the elves, but I had crashed head first into an elven laboratory where I immediately discovered that I was their test subject. They had screens all over that had some portion of me displayed and I had wires hooked up to me and everything, it was crazy. The elves were normal elf size, about a foot tall, my dome took out a pretty decent chunk of that wall, but they seemed completely unphased, they just hooked me back up and went on studying, I felt kind of invaded.

Anyways, anyone else have weird encounters with the elves? Hell any weird encounters with beings in hyperspace are welcome and will be entertained





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Haven't seen the elves yet, but I seem to be stalked by some kind of ghost women (I know, what's a poor traveler to do? ). On my first trip, a group of them had their hands on my back and said a few unintelligible things. A strange monster also appeared, but I was still sub-breakthrough and it went away quickly. I have yet to have an extended breakthrough as ma aya was not strong enough, but that should be remedied by this new batch of spice. Wonder if I'll meet em too?

I've seen the elves once , it was a very beautiful experience , and as they greeted me they were very friendly and very house proud with beautiful extravagant gardens in which they gave me a guided tour , and yes there not how we see then in books as kids but at the same time it's not far of either .....

No, and frankly this whole topic has me perplexed. I've never been able to reconcile the 'environments' and interactions that occur in many accounts that I've read. I have had some definite and uncanny experiences with beings that were 'there' and outside of me, but it's always been either at the outset or end of a heavy trip. And its never in a recognisable place. When I'm fully immersed in hyperspace, i could never describe it as a place, although it feels like one. There are layers of folding, five dimensional shapes and fantastic colors, alien sounds and presences, things that could be described as objects that could never exist in the three dimensional space i inhabit, but not anything remotely...,,normal. I understand describing some of this as 'places', but any description of them would include similar superlatives as above.

While there is very little in the literature regarding
the metaphysical nature of DMT don't get from the encounters I've had with it, i still wonder if somehow I'm missing out? Is there some dosage level I've never achieved where the tessalating and fractalizing gives way to recognizable environments like grassy fields or the laboratory that OP speaks of? Or is it just a language thing, that I'm reading too literally, trying to hard to understand? I'm not denying the validity of the se accounts, but I've wondered about this for awhile.

Thank you all for replying this makes me very happy

null24 - I don't believe you're missing out on anything, as far as I'm concerned you've got everything you need, you notice the sounds and presences, I have a similar problem as its nearly impossible for me to have visual hallucinations, even on eight doses of LSD! I have never interacted with anyone in hyperspace, I've only watched and it confounds me. I don't really believe anyone can quite understand where they are whilst on the spice but realizing what's around you is something I have not been able to do, I get mostly blackness and disorientation. Sometimes when I decide to stay here instead of lying back and taking it my room turns into the choice hangout spot of all the coolest alien dudes!

I do believe there is a breakthrough beyond the breakthrough as you may have described, or perhaps mental training to push aside the ridiculousness of it all and you can achieve a state of understanding within the trip. I think I am also trying too hard to understand or see things, I hope that both of our problems are resolved within the near future, keep thinking!


Earthwalker - I'm delighted you were able to have such an amazing experience, kinda jealous really may you have plenty more.


Husky - don't worry too hard about seeing them, as far as I'm concerned they have only little to offer compared to the rest of hyperspace, not to put them down in any way, they're obviously quite significant. But they're probably selective in appearance or maybe they're just a common interpretation our minds come up with for something even greater, maybe it's those creepy ghost ladies of yours haha, maybe try talking to them? I hope your next batch goes swimmingly and you have wonderful memories of the experience, safe travels!



Thank you all for you all,

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I see them now more often than I used to. At first it was very rare. And even then I'd never see their faces. Lately I've started resting my mind as I prefer to smoalk in the evening when my mind is a bit more calm. I'll rest with my eyes closed in mental silence until I'm almost at the point of no return. (Sleep that is)

That's when I toke. Since doing that my experiences have been deeper and rhe elves have been far more interactive. On a couple occassions I've even had a conversation with them. I believe one was on the topic of glasses or something. Usually it's a silent, but understood communication.

Everyone is different, you'll find your sweet spot and see the elves soon enough!

I've only actually seen the elves once. I can usually feel that they are there, but it's more in the background of what's going on when I'm in hyperspace.

The one time I saw them I smoked during the peak of a mescaline trip. The best I can describe it is that it was a humanoid-like fractal being made of light. It was straight in front of me and knew I was aware of it. It seemed very benevolent and I could feel love coming from it. I had music playing and the being was moving like it was dancing to the music but it's movements were almost robot-like. After what seemed like almost a minute another one came out of my peripheral and they embraced and then faded.

I was amazed at how clear and recognizable it was. Normally when I'm in hyperspace everything is so foreign that it's hard to register it, but that time it was more like it came to my reality rather than I to theirs. I've noticed that smoking on LSD or mescaline softens the intensity of the come up and adds more clarity to the experience. I rarely smoke but when I do now it's usually on another psychedelic.

I like the idea of diving in while at the peak of a different experience, I've done it myself on LSD and the whole thing for me seems to crunch into one big focal point and it's ready to take off, maybe I needed more? But the almost overwhelming intensity of the situation is strikingly clear and I remember it vividly, it told me to break my most precious pipe, my first one ever and let me tell you about a daunting task, thankfully I did not I might have cried.

LysergicBliss that sounds like something we all should be able to enjoy

Thank you for reminding me of that particular detail 1ce, I couldn't see their faces, but it felt like they were ignoring me, anyways that makes me hopeful I may get to interact with them. Thank you for replying!




Thank you everyone,


Sincerely

I know exactly what you are talking about 1ce. I have seen many "beings" in my experiences but normally there is no communication just understanding.

Yeah, I'm uncertain as to weather it was being comunicated through vocal or telepathic dialog. There was a conversation taking place nonetheless. I'd like to experience that again if I could.

It seems as though they communicate through a series of choreographed actions. Not only of their own, but the actions of my environment as well. It's a very unique experience.

Have you ever noticed how bizzare, and alike so many of our DMT travels are? How we can be shot through oblivion itself and have alike stories? That in and of itself I find remarkable!

I think alot of what's experienced depends on a clear mind. No mental chatter, or external stimulation. Sozket, I wish you the best in your travels. Maybe the elves are a little shy ?

I've only seen them once. It was when my friends were over at my place. I saw lines connected between each person as a sort of symbol for the connections being generated through conversations and all that. They were jumping onto the lines and riding them, basically acting crazy.

In my experience the set, setting, dosage and intent have had the most impact on my experiencing "entity contact". These experiences seem to be more and more frequent over time as well. It seems for me a bit of an art. I have only once or twice been fully engulfed in hyperspace where it made no difference whether or not my eyes were open or shut or could tell if I had eyes or not and oddly these were not necessarily my most profound encounters with these beings. I always keep the room lit only by a few candles and have prepared the area in some way. Simmilar to many, the communications I recieve and transmit are simply understood mutually and are in no way audible. One that sticks out for me as different than usual was with a male entity who had a strongly divine presence. He was haging out in some kind of opening and behind him in the opening there was what looked like a relatively normal looking world. Digital yes but trees and things were apparent. When I would open my eyes things looked normal besides the tryptamine clarity thing but the entity would crack up laughing.. I would close my eyes and he was on the "floor" laughing and trying to come to from the hilarity of my having had my eyes open, he would calm down and I opened my eyes again and he would crack up. Over and over this happened in this one experience. The last time he beckoned me to stop opening my eyes for a second and I kept them shut, he recovered and the visions dispersed but I could tell he was still present until I was fully down. Weird huh. I have vague abstractions of what I could glean from all this but its hard to say. At first I was a bit insulted, like whats so funny about my world but now I wonder if it was meant as a hint about our connections with them.

I've never "seen" any entities on any substance. On one very intense LSD trip I got to the point where everything just ended, nothing left to understand or experience. Total white out of consciousness and ego. As my mind began to "reboot" for lack of a better word, I began hearing and feeling something from inside myself, like a voice. At the time i thought it was God. Massive emptiness shining and vibrating and trying to communicate. I don't remember much of the actual experiencse.

I haven't taken a big enough dose of Spice to feel and significant presence, it just gets way too intense to even think about taking another hit.

I ran into what was like an elf wall a couple/few times. They were very subtle and slick, but not really friendly. A lot of dejavue there.

Also ran into a feiednlier gingerbreadman wall!

Interacted with more 3d and action-y beings that were sort of elfish once.

Oh boy you folques have got the old memory banks stirring. I've had so many strange experiences, I'll just overview some of the memories that popped up reading this thread.

We are all familiar I'm sure with the lower dose chysanthemum level where you see the beautiful morphing geometric patterns but never break through through to the other place. I just mention it because I'm sure it's something many of us can relate too.

The first time I broke through I was sure I had died and wasn't coming back, it was a fairly typical morphing brightly colored fractaline space. "I" was simply a part of this space, there was no memory of having been human just this place complete and whole, eternal. There were really no thoughts about it, there was no I or mind to have thoughts, it just was and "I" was just part of it.

One experience early on in my exploration I took a really heavy dose and was quite surprised upon closing my eyes and laying back to see my very first dog from when I was little little kid run up and greet me, I hadn't thought of her in decades. She was followed by what I can only assume were all my dead ancestors who greeted me warmly and let me know how much they loved me and how happy they were to see me. That one was very emotional.

Only one time did I have the archetypical Mckenna trip, but I did get it just as described. The friendly little ball beings would jump in and out of me and tell me how much they loved me. Singing songs and showing me objects. They kept urging me to sing but I was still aware my body was back in a room full of people and I was a little apprehensive to start vocalizing all crazy, so I just made a little boop sound and they went wild with glee and kept urging me to do more but by this time it was fading a way. I'm honestly a bit apprehensive to share this one because it's so cliche but that's exactly how it happened.

There is one I remember breaking into this room where these beings sitting around this big table having a meeting. They were very tall probably in the 8-10 foot range and were wearing metallic capes. They were not happy that I burst in in the middle of their meeting and started coming toward me malevolently but I slipped out of that space into another one before they got very close. On the way back to my body from that one I saw all these like apparition ghoul creatures circling around me and I could feel them poking and prodding at my body below me trying to find an way to enter, for some reason I was obsessed with trying to see their faces but every time would look at one they had only black shadows there.

I crashed some kind of interdimensional cocktail party in one. I'm not even sure how I know that's what it was, but the feeling that's what it was was unmistakable. It left me with the impression everyone there was onto some kind of really funny joke at my expense and I was totally clueless about it. Wink wink don't you get it?

I had one experience that ended with the looney tunes ending. The musical fanfare, porky pig waving his hand th-th-th-that's all folks, the whole deal perfect and to the T.

For some time every time I would go in I'd find myself as some kind of object like some kind of toy or something I'd be rapidly shifting into different positions but it was like I was a part of the room or wall as well as an individual entity. There were a bunch of other ones just like me around me and they would keep telling me "this is it, this is what you are, you are one of us, this is what you really are and you need to get ready, you need to be prepared for 2012, you need to make sure everyone else is ready. Remember this is what you are, this is what you need to prepare for." This went on for months and months every time I would smoalk, it was quite strange.

On one particularly heavy experience I found myself in this place:

And this disembodied voice is asking me if I want to stay in this place forever now. I was like "no, this is not what I want" and it asked what do you want? and I started listing things off "my bed" and it appeared, "my girlfriend" she was in the bed beside me, "my room, my friends, my apartment, my city, my world" all appeared around me as I listed them off, and there I was back where I started from, I rebuilt my whole universe from the ground up.

One time I broke into some sort of small room overlooking a large round space like one of those operation viewing rooms. There were little pod rooms like mine all around the walls, each was lit with a white light. It was very cold and sterile feeling and pretty frightening.

I enjoyed smoking DMT to Tool for some time and one time while smoking to 46 and 2 I saw myself attempting to sing along and unable to correctly speak the words as if I was singing something completely different than the song I was listening to and intending to sing as my head rapidly shook back in forth. About halfway through I discovered that I could shift the Tool track I was listening to with my will and I started flipping through different Tool songs and each time I changed it the whole world around me would shift. The one that sticks out the most is when I shifted to aenima and saw the tidal waves enveloping the cities, buildings collapsing, and just complete and utter destruction. When I returned 46 and 2 wasn't even over, the song never had changed and my friend reported no I had been laying there completely still no vocalizing or singing at all.

Another time I was laying in bed smoaking changa to my dubstep station on Pandora. At some point my internet must have cut out or something and I found myself just floating in silent beautiful hyperbliss. One of those typical uninhabited fractalline spaces with lots of purples and golds. Then suddenly out of nowhere the dubstep starts back up and the whole world around me starts wobbling with it then the song goes "where is my money?" and hyperspace responds by shooting all these dollar signs in my face.

Yet another time, I popped into the hyperrealms to find myself surrounded by all my friends, only they all looked exactly like bender units wearing my friends faces.

I went in with a friend giving me a lightshow with the LED gloves. When I closed my eyes there was my friend in his hyper elf self with a big grin. He lifted each finger one at a time and it lit up as he did. Then when he started his show it just completely enveloped me with it's light and then everything fell into a hyperspacial blur.

Okay last one...
I found myself in some sort of temple, lots of gold, carpeted in red, very ornate and these two female entities with these big long ribbons on poles came and put on a beautiful show/dance for me and whenever I'd focus on one they would come up and start wrapping their ribbon around and around and around till it fully enveloped me then I'd find myself again outside of it watching them dance and it just kept looping like that over and over again.

There are so many more, but I've probably already shared way more than I should have for one post. Sorry for the length. DMT is weird stuff lol.

Don't be sorry dreamer042. This post & your x-mas post are the feel good posts of dec 2015. Thank you & merry x-mas.

They held a parade for me on my birthday!

The most of my breakthrough experiences has the elves involved. They are always twitching or jumping, changing form and making weird alien voices. For me, it feels like their only mission is to make me howling/singing, which has happened every time with only a few exceptions. I don't know what's the purpose of that thing, but they are really pushing me for it and then it just happens and continues until I'm conscious of my body. Weird folk I must say.

Great accounts! Tool is my favorite band! The syncopated beats of tool go great in the hyperspace realm!

No elves. But I'm taken to a place that I belive is a place in between death and rebirth. It's like meetin with God.