read this thread https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=37220


I would forget the gatorade bottle and foil/straw methods. A bong will work once you get it down. Make sure its not melting through. How long are you holding in your hits?

Also, make changa! There is very simple ways to make it now that don't even require solvents.

If you exhale visible smoke then hold it in longer. 10 is definitely a bit short. Not sure if thats your main problem though

changa in the bonga

if your smoking out of a bong and holding your hits AS LONG AS YOU CAN then there might still be visible smoke but yes try 2 to 3 rips out of a bong and hold them until you just cannot anymore... exhale and enjoy
also set and setting are very important you didn't say where SWIM was when he had this experience so maybe try going outside in a secluded area
SWIM has found that for him the spice is very auditory in nature and depedning on what your hearing the trip can range from a feeling of euphoria to BLASTING OFF into hyperspace!!!

Stupid question perhaps, but how much time between the hits? I think the closest I've come to breaking through was when I held the hit in until it felt like my head was going to explode. Should I have taken another hit immediately after?

Early on in my DMT experiences, upon loading the largest dose I've smoked to date with 60mg in the GVG and taking my hits, I had this sense of "impending doom". I didn't really view it in terms of dying because the rational part of me that was still left knew that DMT could not kill you. But nevertheless, the sensation scared the hell out of me, and I became too scared to close my eyes. If I had closed my eyes, it probably would have been my first breakthrough, but I didn't...but it was beautiful anyway, and ultimately nothing bad ended up happening which I took note of.

So a couple months later I took 4 hits out of the GVG (my vaping technique was pretty poor at the time, but 4 hits was more than usual even for me). I once again had this sense of impending doom. It's the kind of feeling and intensity lingering in the air where the lamp is whispering to the cable box, "he's really done it this time. he's really f*$#@ed now." It's sort of like the feeling that a nuclear bomb is going off and the whole world is coming to an end. Luckily, I didn't let fear and poor memory get the better of me. I thought to myself, "well, this has happened before, and when it happened last time, nothing really bad happened, so nothing bad will probably happen now," and so with that thought, I took a fifth hit (I don't know how it's possible either, never done it before or since) and my surroundings and reality were going so overboard, they didn't even know how to react or behave. I sat back, closed my eyes, and had my first sublime breakthrough. It was everything I could have hoped for and more.

Fast-forward to this past Christmas. I loaded up and vaped 15mg harmine followed immediately by 15mg DMT. Upon holding in my single hit of DMT, I got that familiar and now welcome feeling of impending doom (or dying as so many of you like to put it). Recalling my success from pushing the boundaries at this stage in the game from the past, I took another hit, ignoring the alarming tension in the air. I sat back and closed my eyes as one holographic scene after another layered themselves on top of one another so that each scene was unique yet contributing to the larger whole at the same time. There were many Egyptian holograms, and I recall seeing the face of the Sphinx in the last scene when all of a sudden white began ballooning out of it all. I ended up concluding that with all these holographic scenes or "dimensions" layered one on top of the other that eventually all the colors of the spectrum began to be present on top of each other such that there was a sort of "reverse Zeeman effect" causing white to appear (being the culmination of all other light frequencies). As the white began appearing, time went from hyper fast to being non-existent almost entirely. This grand, over-joyous, loving white entity came out of the middle of what was now a completely white scene with the absolute euphoria that accompanies a white light encounter with the godhead.

Now this sense of impending doom is not a frequent phenomena for me, but when I see the warning signs in the air, instead of reacting with fear, curling up in a ball and trying to abort or back down or something of the sort, I welcome it wholeheartedly. My body may be going through a fight or flight fear response, but my mind reassures me that everything is perfect, and the stage has been set for what's about to be with no doubt, a very special experience. If you feel like you're dying, and you can just throw everything to the wind, fantastic things can happen (only on DMT )

should I have taken another hit immediately after?

Stupid question perhaps, but how much time between the hits? I think the closest I've come to breaking through was when I held the hit in until it felt like my head was going to explode. Should I have taken another hit immediately after?

Thanks for the info, Global. I had an idea that you only have a small window of opportunity to get DMT into your system. My problem thus far has been maintaining enough wherewithal to take the second and third hits; usually the first one hits me for six but without breakthrough, but by the time I'm coherent enough to take hit two the window of opportunity has all bit closed. I think fear plays a big part in this struggle, just as you alluded to.

Interesting that you mention closing your eyes - until recently I'd always done this, but I find it so disorienting (well it is DMT, but I want to be able to take hits). Does it really make a difference whether your eyes are open or not? I've read so many accounts of breakthroughs with eyes open, seeing the room split down the middle to reveal a gaping void etc. but is this typically from higher doses?

Until last night, I shared OP's frustration. I tried bongs, bowls, the machine, etc and wasted a lot of money and a lot of spice to see a few patterns. While I can't guarantee it will work for you, I can tell you what finally worked for me.

I have a crudely constructed machine from a 50ml Absolut Vodka nip. A quick search of "DMT" and "machine" will lead you to instructions on how to make your own. I would highly recommend doing so. It costs almost no money and isn't hard.

Anyhow, based on info I saw in this and other forums, I had been loading up about 50mg each attempt. I decided to try around 100mgs. I don't know if this was the difference maker, but it couldn't have hurt. I was also extremely careful not to apply too much heat. I took one very long and slow but very large hit, held it for maybe 15-20 seconds and boom, there was the promised land.

As has been stated elsewhere, I think burning the spice is one of the main causes of failure to launch. Using the machine with a torch lighter gives you more control than other methods I've tried. You may also want to try gradually increasing dosage if you continue to not breakthrough. Also, I had my eyes open the entire time, so for me at least, this was a non-factor. Good luck!