So this has never happened to me before, but I am getting dmtesque visions although time now... when I haven't used any psychedelics for over a week. They are visions of an eye and pyramids and they are attached to a feeling of impending doom, I don't think it is my physical death but like some sort of transformation is looming. It all started when I just did an extract a few days ago, anyways its kinds of freaking me out a bit because these visions are accompanied by that sense of "realness" when you breakthrough on dmt. This has happened to me randomly throughout they day when im at work, school, and at home.

Anyways just want to know if anyone has gotten this before. I should add that these visions are accompanied by a vision of my extract like its calling me. I don't know if this is just me psyching myself out or otherwise.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Maybe you just need to take a break? I have had these feelings before, just attributed it to blasting off too often. I would stop for a while. See if that helps.

I already plan on at least taking a break until these visions subside, but its strangely powerful, especially in the dark I really notice it. Idk its been getting stronger even though the last time I used dmt was about 9 days ago.

I remember that after significantly strong breakthrougs, certain "hyperspatial" feelings, smells, and also some visual aspects, have been lingering with me for some time. These were especially pronounced at the time of falling asleep and waking up...

So I assume this can be not uncommon also to other people who are sensitive to DMT ike I am...

BTW have you been using other substances within the 9 days you are talking about?

No I have been totally sober, I have been meditating more though? It started when I finished my extraction, which I feel like is pretty strange, and my dreams have been especially lucid and vivid.

I have been undergoing a kind of transformation though, since last year when I first started with ayahuasca and dmt, I have been getting progressively more into meditation, yoga, and exercise, and I really have felt lately like I am changing at a pretty fundamental level, which is kind of terrifying. I have been identifying a lot less with my ego. I feel like have been undergoing a sort of individuation process as Jung describes it. I've been using spice, and aya as medicine and it has been really clearing me out of unhealthy habits and thought patterns.

And this past month I feel like I have been holding onto the last fragments my ego, or maybe not my ego but at least my denial of the possibility of some sort of awakening. I don't want to sound like some spiritual freak or something, but I don't have anyone to talk to regularly about this work I have been doing, this mental alchemy. I guess lately its just been getting kind of deep and spooky.

Anyways guess I just have to type it out vent it out to someone, I don't know if any of this makes any sense? At least my cousin is coming into town who is an experienced psychonaut so I am hoping he will give me some insight.

I should note that this isn't an emergency I don't feel like I am going crazy or anything, just going through unfamiliar change, and finding it difficult to find a way to cope, since I don't have many people to talk to, beside those here

were all spiritual freaks here hehe, atleast most of us IMO.

Sounds like some well needed integration is due. Take this time to focus and participate in some healthy activities.

Just my 2 cents

Hey now, don't complain. You asked for it. You knew what you were doing the whole damn time, regardless of whether or not you chose to take it seriously until the consequences were staring you in the face.

Keep your head.
Breathe.
Shut up.
Follow your heart.
Never be afraid... it's just a ride.

Everything will be fine. Buckle yourself in, stay frosty, and never hesitate to stick your shoulder to the wheel.

Happy Trails.

I find that the more I meditate, the stronger my connection grows to the energies that make up hyperspace. If you're anything like me, meditation will invoke certain hyperspace-like phenomena without any DMT.

At hiyo quicksilver, ya your right i did ask for this. Its kind of coming to terms with the fact that i bought the ticket and now im stuck on the ride. I should say that I am enjoying it, it is just troublesome that I have no outlet in this society besides this place really. Ecstasy is so taboo, that I have to feel guilty for having wonderful visions and feeling really good is absurd. Which basically what I am going through is just this process of learning to love myself like I never have before and its strange that at least where I live this is frowned upon, or at least isn't considered normal. This whole experience since I found ayahuasca has been a transformative and healing one, and now that the transformation is really taking hold and genuine healing has occurred its hard to relate to my old life, the people around me, etc. Also I shall try to stay frosty

And to Global yes the more I meditate I feel a strengthening to my connection of that emotional state that dmt brings about. Although the meditation can bring about pretty intense states I feel them necessary although not particularly enjoyable, it is very healing the insights my meditations have brought me as of late. I may try to do more active meditation, since my sitting meditation has been too contemplative( which is where the weirdness begins lately)

The only thing that is actually troubling although kind of enjoyable is the hallucinations I am experiencing while totally sober. I am wondering if its is hppd? The visions are accompanied by a certain sense of imminence that is upsetting when I am, say sitting at work. Although I am taking a break to see if this goes away, maybe a long break who knows, a part of me wonders if maybe a real transformation may actually occur the next time I partake in the sacrament, this is both frightening and exciting to me, since I have read reports of those truly life changing journeys.

Anyways thanks for the feedback its good to hear that other people understand this sort of thing. Sorry for how long it is also.

The drugs do get more intense, but there's no need to load it up with preconception. That feeling of imminent approach can indeed lead one to believe that there is some incredibly powerful event on the way, but it most certainly need not turn out this way. If you treat the experience as such and put your energy into it though... it may well be the case. It's up to you and how you choose to face it.

As far as the social isolation and acceptance is concerned, that's where the "shut up" part comes in. There's no need to be concerned about your differences from other people if you're making an effort to communicate with others according to their world view. Finding the common ground and working with it is key to social life and communication in general, and it's also how you sidestep the possible explosive results of mixing people with very different ontological assumptions. Sure, its not a "normal" experience... but to your advantage, it is not possible to understand it without first having been there; so just be mindful of your mouth and your emotions when it counts, and nothing will be out of place.
If you just have visions and feeling to contend with, you've got it easy. You shouldn't have any problems dealing with people so long as you just remember to breathe, and to take it with humor... It could be much worse. For example, I've got shooting pains, muscle spasms, balance-shattering shifts in spacial perception, trouble maintaining consciousness and the highly terrifying and disgusting looking need to violently wrench my shoulders, neck and back into alignment many times an hour to stay moving and breathing to contend with... You've got it easy ...so take advantage of that and make the most of the opportunity.

And remember man... Never fear. Never. It's just a ride.

Why not?

Personally, i would try to apply my knowledge of how to let go and then just try to go with the visions to see where they take me. If you feel that there is some valuable meaning attached to them, i would try to find out more. While accepting the fact that my interpretations might not always be correct. I'd also find it reasonable to smoke again with the intent of finding out if other means of obtaining information would fail. I'm already hearing the "OMG don't give this kind of advice, he is going schizophrenic, he should get narcoleptics already!!!!!11" authority shouting at me..so i'll leave it at that.

I agree with a point further above regarding possible need for integration - though may I also add that your outlook on this phenomena will have a huge impact on how it really affects you. if you look at it positively, it could turn out to be a good thing in your own personal development.
After doing a lot of acid a while back I had a similar thing where I felt like I was tripping all the time - for a short period I was looking at it negatively as if there was permanent "noise" in my vision...but I decided I needed to stay positive and it soon began manifested more as eye candy... divine realms gently seeping through into physical reality and making everything feel "deeper".. look at it as knowledge
.. for some, once reality is completely broken apart, it is hard to ever see "everyday reality" the same again. and its all up to you from there how you choose to perceive it. my outlook on it turned to be the make or break factor and after becoming much more positive about it I now see it as a blessing...

enjoy your enchanted vision

If the phone rings, pick it up.

Ive gotten hppd symptoms in the past from heavy psych use but also just from meditation.

Usually its a good thing but sometimes it can be together with very unreal feelings of either detachment or the opposite.

What always helps for me is exersize, good food and a attitude that its just a phase of spirutual growth.

Once you have adapted you will be fine, its baaicly just a system bug from a software update.

Thanks everyone for the responses. I guess just staying positive and taking it a day at a time is really all there is to do, so thats what Ill do. I have been dosing kind of a lot so I am going to give it a break, who knows how long though.

It seems what I am going through is simply the fact that these "drugs" really do work. That is they really do transform you. So I am going to take a bit of time and integrate that info. If I do trip ill lower my doses and/or frequency at least.

I guess the honeymoon is over

I have been experiencing very intense DMT/Ayahuasca type visuals regularly at odd times of the day for the last three years or so although I don't have the feeling of doom to go along with it.......
Also, the CEV's seem to become much more vivid during the late evening hours before bedtime.

In the last year the phenomena has become extremely pronounced, even though my actual intake of DMT this year is significantly less this year than it has been since I began using it.

I personally marvel at the phenomena and it does not bother me, it fills me with wonder and awe.....
I like to think of it as proof positive (at least to me) that a neurogenesis is taking place in my brain as a direct result of my relationship with DMT and ayahuasca.

In my opinion the tendency of western cultures is to hold a very rigid and concrete view of the world, this is a sharp contrast to eastern and indigenous cultures that hold a more flexible definition of what reality "is".
It seems to me that the more rigid and inflexible ones view of reality is then the harder it is for that person to deal with a major cognitive "disruption" such as this.

For example if a western person suddenly sees a spirit they may believe they are going crazy because there are no such thing as ghosts.
By the same token, if an indigenous person saw a ghost chances are that they would not be driven mad by the paranormal encounter because they can more easily accept the idea that "it's only a spirit" since they have a cultural frame of reference that such thing exist to draw from.

On a more scientific note.....
I feel like this video has some relevance to the thread, It is a study that finds increased cognitive performance among regular users of ayahuasca despite the fact that the ayahuasca is causing physical changes to take place within the brain....
Enjoy..

Don't worry about HPPD. We don't even know exactly what that really "is" anyways IMO

What you described is something me and many others have been through before. It may fade, or it may deepen- and you can make choices that help swing the balance either way. If its too much, take some time off and focus on integrating.

Seeing it as "a system bug from a software update" is missing the point

Many people don't realize that overtime a "bridge" can be made to these psychedelic states/phenomena, and they become more and more accessible without them. The speed and degree too which this can happen in each individual varies. Sometimes it can happen spontaneously, sometimes by will. For example over the years i've learned to put myself in a state that is very similar to a harmala state of consciousness, and sometimes it deepens to an experience that is not unlike a full on dmt-filled ayahuasca brew. And I've found other ways to enter into states that are very similar to lower-level dmt affects just by staring with a relaxed focus and coaxing a sort of "shift", for lack of a better word, in consciousness- which oddly enough is very similar to something i used to do at night as a kid laying in bed. This all started happening spontaneously, but overtime i learned a little bit on how to bring them about myself. And from what i can tell, i'm still a total noob when it comes to this stuff. Its well known that many skilled ayahuasqueros can bring in the visions with a simple icaro whenever they want.

Just follow your heart, go with the flow, don't ever take yourself or it too seriously, live a healthy and fulfilling life, and i think you'll be fine :]

To me this was the disconnect that i found is a part of the experience yes, but what I learned from it wasnt that I needed further isolation, but that psychedelic use was causing the disconnect with other people. It is a lone path but only because it is internal healing. Too much internal and not enough external stimulis (interaction with the outside world) alone causes this. Sometimes its hard to relate because you are different, they are different, we are all different. To learn that these differences are not important when it comes to social interaction, IMO, is the lesson that needs to be learned. Find what things are OK to continue to be disconnected from (money, hate, want ect.) and allow that, while working on reconnecting to the important things in a new way, your new way.

When you get that feeling I feel that means its time for integration, till you feel there is a relation between us all. Atleast for me thats a part of why I use psychedelics... To bring me closer to nature, and other humans. We all share one major common attribute. We are all ONE.

A little love, a little laughter... goes a Loooong way.