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Why do patheticaly low doses affect swim and his buddies so much Options
 
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#1 Posted : 3/31/2009 12:21:36 PM

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swims spice is about 3 months old - its yellowish and has a nice odour.
5mg - 8mg is a very strong experience for swim and his kronies, why is this - if some has oxidized wouldnt it be weaker ?

at 5mg swim has had contact with entities etc... far more than just some patterns and colors - why is this ? does swim have super spice ?
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#2 Posted : 3/31/2009 2:56:47 PM

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what did SWIY extract out of it...it sounds like 5-meo-dmt..which is potent in this range...
it's a sound
 
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#3 Posted : 3/31/2009 3:11:44 PM

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okay i extracted stb with naptha on mhrb so 5-meo is not really possible -
swim has like 3 bottles of spice
1 almost white
1 yellow
1 very dark yellow

swims usual is the yellow - yesterday swim tested the white and it was almost inactive at 5mg.
the yellow one was not always so yellow - over time(3 months or so) it has turned more yellow - it is being kept in an airtight vessel in the cupboard and swim lives in a warm country - swim thought it may be the n-oxide but heard this to be weaker than spice - what ya recon.
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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#4 Posted : 3/31/2009 4:24:27 PM

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how often do you clean you smoking utensil?
it's a sound
 
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#5 Posted : 3/31/2009 4:35:05 PM

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and also...what sort of experiences are you having? are you becoming overwhelmed with visions and magic? are you still in your body? or do you just get some kick ass visuals in your normal field of view? because SWIM has had entity contact on low doses as well..

another thing you can try...is load up 30mg of the stuff and take the biggest hit you can...that should solve things
it's a sound
 
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#6 Posted : 3/31/2009 5:29:51 PM

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Something is def. amiss here. It's not 5meo, and it doesn't sound like jungle's potency range either. Could be the residue on the pipe, but doubt that would repeatedly be the problem. Confused
 
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#7 Posted : 3/31/2009 5:35:31 PM
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DMT-n-oxide can give some visual effects at doses where the other DMT effects are not yet felt. I don't think it's strange that you feel SOME effects at this doses.
 
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#8 Posted : 3/31/2009 8:55:37 PM
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how many times have you tripped. My trips have changed. I used to c lots more colors w/ a multitude of entities. But now all I see is patters. Unless on a high dose
 
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#9 Posted : 3/31/2009 10:39:24 PM
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Maybe tolerance does build up if you use on a daily or weekly base. I don't do it that often. That the experience changes is only natural, i think.
 
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#10 Posted : 4/1/2009 12:14:35 AM

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Well I have almost precisely the same experience with spice extracted from MHRB with STB. Usual dosage is around 12 mg which is an all encompassing experience, taken to other worlds and shown around by the inhabitants and such. Also to note, every time I have ventured to the realms of DMT I have been in communication with it's lifeforms. The spice is somewhat yellow after about 5 months and still as potent as the day it was extracted. Have about 15 launches to date. Just got my balances working the other day and was amazed to find out how little I had been using.
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#11 Posted : 4/1/2009 2:18:03 AM

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well this is a really silly question and obvious answer...
Um... what kinda scale are you using to measure out SWIYS doses?
what kinda scale is it?
What does the scale read when you measure it out?
is it 0.05 or 0.5 or 0.005?

this would point to the most obvious answer...
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#12 Posted : 4/1/2009 3:43:39 AM

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LLB, that's the best explanation SWIMs heard all day
 
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#13 Posted : 4/1/2009 8:06:40 AM

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okay - swims been using various entheos like cactus and mushies for a very long time and is not new to opening the mind - smoked spice maybe 20 times now - my scale is very accurate down to 0.001g haha swims not retarded Smile - like 11:11 said 12mg would be a very strong experience.
im not sure what is up with this spice but perhaps it could be because of the type of naptha used, not swims usual naptha - on the fp step the xtals even looked different. swims smoking utensil is always kept very clean and when smoked everything in it vaporizes.
swim smokes spice perhaps 1nce every 2 weeks or so and takes it very seriously, spice has shown swim alot about himself and life in general. Swim sees spice as a teacher.

here is the pipe and spice swims smoking


antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


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#14 Posted : 4/1/2009 9:36:25 AM

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Jorkest wrote:
another thing you can try...is load up 30mg of the stuff and take the biggest hit you can...that should solve things


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#15 Posted : 4/1/2009 9:45:13 AM

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there is no way swim could smoke that much of this spice - after the first pull swims hands are no longer hands and the pipe does not exist in the way it needs to in order for swim to smoke it.
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


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‹xtechre› cheese is great


He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
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#16 Posted : 4/1/2009 10:55:54 AM

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it looks like im going to have to look into this a bit further. i did my pulls and freeze precipped in Newport lighter fluid, it states its petrolium spirit and i always only use petrolium distilate - the smell is a bit different. i think it contains other things beside naptha (check http://www.dmt-nexus.me/....aspx?g=posts&t=3301)
during the freeze precip the spice or whatever else dropped out slower and not as xtaline as usual - there was the usual spice xtals and like a layer of whitish gunky stuff on the bottom of the fp vessel.


antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


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‹xtechre› cheese is great


He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
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Phlux- wrote:
it looks like im going to have to look into this a bit further. i did my pulls and freeze precipped in Newport lighter fluid, it states its petrolium spirit and i always only use petrolium distilate - the smell is a bit different. i think it contains other things beside naptha (check http://www.dmt-nexus.me/....aspx?g=posts&t=3301)
during the freeze precip the spice or whatever else dropped out slower and not as xtaline as usual - there was the usual spice xtals and like a layer of whitish gunky stuff on the bottom of the fp vessel.




I've used Newport lighter fluid for extraction on MHRB STB but with normal effects. I doubt it has anything to do with the lighter fluid.

p.s. the link you posted gives me an access denied message! What's that link about?
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#18 Posted : 4/1/2009 12:16:02 PM

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its a link to a thread i created a long time ago.
it can be found under - Extraction Teks » General and n00b » Varous types of Naptha that do and dont work
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


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‹xtechre› cheese is great


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#19 Posted : 4/1/2009 4:56:44 PM
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Maybe some people are more sensitive to DMT-n-oxide than others. It is generally reported to be less potent, but maybe this is not so for everybody.
On the other hand it could be 'junglespice' being extracted here. Jungle spice probably has MAO-activity so it would anhance DMT's effects.
 
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#20 Posted : 4/1/2009 6:54:22 PM

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that sounds more likely..
it's a sound
 
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