So I've been taking more, deeper, steps into hyperspace.

I haven't broken through, yet, but the experiences I've been having are just incredible. I can't even begin to imagine what a breakthrough must be like.

So, it's a serious question. I took my biggest, deepest hit of DMT a few minutes ago.

I lol'd when I saw my hands. They were humanoid, but definitely not human. These were alien hands guys. I perceived technology that human's don't have. Everything in this MILD dmt state was pure alienness. I no longer need to breath. Of course, I did. But i no longer had any perception of it. Again, perhaps these aliens dont breath oxygen as we do?

Does anyone think that maybe, and I know this is the stuff of science fiction, that maybe some aliens from our past have encoded themselves into DMT, and that when he take DMT, we become those aliens??

Just a though.

P.S When the trip was over, I def felt like i had 'come back' or 'returned' from somewhere or BEING SOMETHING. It took me a while before I was capable of doing anything.

I don't think we become aliens but i have had experiences where ive had revelations that we are already aliens who inhabit this earth. Ive seen people in their original alien form. From what i seen there's lots of different species of alien from all corners of the universe and somehow we ended up living in human bodies on earth.

That's what i thought at the time anyway

I personally believe the "Aliens" you may be speaking of are "Gods" who created us in their own image.

I've always noticed that hands look really weird and alien while on DMT. It's not usually until the afterglow part that I can actually see my hands. But they look so weird and inhuman! I imagine anything could happen if you look at them in the middle of a trip.

Sometimes I felt I was a reptile humanoid specie when looking at my hands and face, also a strong lizard perception would follow of being a lizard.

The hand thing! I always trip on my hands after a blast. I'm mixed ethnicity so my skin is brown and one time after a large blast upon looking at my hands they were super small, like the size of a toddlers and they were white, both sides were white like white white. Very odd this lasted a while. Another time after a large blast I laid back on my bed and was alarmed when I felt it moving... moving like it was on the ocean. When I opened my eyes it looked like I was underwater,x when I looked at my hands once again they were white but my fingertips were wrinkly like I had stayed in the bathtub too long... hands are very weird on deems I must admit. Last time I did it I was playing with the light entities watching them make patterns etc. (Eyes closed) but then I felt them around me doing things, I could feel them touching me and prodding I knew they were there but was a bit frightened to open my eyes after coming down I noticed a very odd marking atop my right hand. It was like cicular indentations 3 of them I n a patteren of sorts it lasted for a few hours too before dissapearing. Anyone eles experience anything like this?

i think we enter a mode of being that is so foreign and strange compared to our normal state of consciousness that it mine as well be from another galaxy

have you smoked dmt or taken ayahuasca and then gazed at yourself in a mirror? you will turn into much more than just aliens!

Every time i smoke a high dose & don't breakthrough i turn into an alien. When this happens i always look down at my hands and feet then feel my nose, it feels extremely alien & half the size it was before smoking.

Firstly haven't taken DmT yet...

This sounds amazing to be honest. Ofc I would say no need to stress about it :, but you already know that.

I would love to experience it though. I think when you enter that state you somehow unlock the real you, the inner being of utter blissfulness, I think you enter such a state where you become one with everything. (Something thats 'Godlike' an extreme being. As I believe that a person never dies, you only have this "fleshy" body for the moment here on earth, after you die you enter the universe(the true dimensional timeless-space) where you only use your mind to do things.

I wonder have anyone tried to stick there hand through a wall? or something similar while being on DmT, or tried to disconnect from your "Earth body"? I know it sounds insane...

I remember the one time on Salvia, it felt as if I went away for a few days, and later returned to my body, I spent a day in my "Salvia Reality" seeing and meeting people., I even had a job.. a fking job at a zoo like place, I remember I worked with birds (No idea why>? this is strange I just noticed that, My dad used to love birds... anyway..)

So yea, alien like hand I could understand why, or I think I do... Since I believe you have a proper body, and that is covered by this "fleshy weak body that grows old". Like you always stay young inside, it's the body that finally trick your mind into believing that your getting old and not just the body. (Hope this makes sense, and sorry I don't wane go off-topic or something , just remove it if it is)

MJ

good topic bro. I think we are cruising in our mind made bodies for sure. I think we would look like angels,demons,aliens,hyper intelligent shades of blue and everything in between. I will have to see if some nice dmt being could raise a mirror and show me my hyperspace avatar. bet I'm hot! you guys too Seen a Goddess cruise over my couch the other night. She was hot so why not us

I think its possible for it to be the other way around.

The aliens actually become us.

On most all my journey's, I am an alien, undeniably.............

And as far as the OP's comment about breathing.

I also think that as my alien being in hyperspace, breathing, at least as we know it, isn't necessary.

It seems if air is necessary, it is being absorbed by some other means other than "normal" breathing in and out of the lungs............

I have been shown genetic mutation experiments while in hyperspace. The images come in super rapid succesion, with each genetic experiment, resulting in some form of mutant, or what seems to me to be failed genetic hybrid experiments...........

How weird!!

Nothing I am about to write comes from original thought.

I've had one brief glimpse behind the curtain and into what I call godspace. Granted, this is a half baked conclusion that is subject to much revision as my experience base grows, but IMO when you breakthrough on DMT, you don't become alien.

In my experience what I grokked was that *this* reality is actually the alien reality/world/universe. This reality is a metaphysical training ground, a game, an amusing joke. (I think our language lacks the subtlety to fully express the actual intent of this reality.) Our conscious minds have become so attached and nearly fully integrated into this reality through these flesh and bone avatars we were born into, that we are 100% convinced of our body ownership. When you "hit the ejection button" with DMT, your unconscious mind explodes into our true "godspace" reality. "Body ownership?!? We don't need no stinking body!" While I'm in this space, it seems familiar and, as others have said, almost a sense of deja vu. Almost like waking from a dream, but in reverse.

Now, when the DMT wears off, our fully expanded consciousness is crammed back into these meat monkey suits. My impression is that our limited brain capacity and primitive constructs cannot fully make sense of what was experienced. As a result the memories of the experience can only be recalled and interpreted as alien. Until we fully evolve to the state intended, the interpretation will remain that way.

I've become a little attached this idea. I know it's not original and I'm sure someone I will meet in my travels will set me straight at somepoint.

It has become a regular thing for my hands to feel totally alien to my body every single time I ingest the spice now. It is really quite discomfiting most of the time. It makes me uncomfortable because my hands are MY FUCKING HANDS. They are perhaps the part of the body every single human is most familiar with. Except when I smoke even sub break through levels of spice, my hands feel COMPLETELY alien to me. My fingers feel long and slender and at times never ending, like they're touching everything. If I bring the two hands together or touch fingers in any way, it magnifies this effect. It' very alien and uncomfortable to the point where I now put my hands palms down on my thighs immediately upon setting down the machine, and keep them there for as long as I remember. Which is usually about either 5 seconds or 50 lifetimes. One of the two...

Anybody else get this phenomena?

iTs nice to see a thread like this. Something I have thought about for a long time now. One way I see it is this.

We are are aliens to other planetary inhabitants. Evolution runs across the board not just on this one lonely planetary system. The universe is about 14 billion years old. Our planet is about 1/3 of that and just a fraction of that time here could support even microbial life. So a life form from other star systems or galaxies may have close to 10 billion years on our evolution.

If any one species can last into the millions of years let alone billions they have to be doing some things right. What if it's possible that a species can evolve to the point that they can shed their need for a physical body. Its the only way that intergalactic travel may be possible.

So yea, i think in time if we didn't kill each other and our planet first we would eventually shed these bodies far down the road and just like we enjoy and need to help each other out on this forum maybe we would wish for a way to help out like minded beings. One way to do that would be to make some kind of communication possible. Such as imprinting intelligence into plant's or molecular structures or making a portal to us possible.

This is total thought porn but its one thing that has come up for me time and time again. Were all just aliens. Some more advanced than others, some SO advanced its hard to picture them as something like us at one time.

Never entered hyperspace with my eyes open, so cant say as I've had the same experience with the hands... but cool report nevertheless

Was watching a vid on youtube about the holographic universe theory and the 10 dimensions. They say that this reality is held in the 5th dimension, which is a multitude of possible outcomes branching from the present.

---> We exist in the 3rd dimension... but what if our ancestors mastered jumping between dimensions/time travel? DMT could be a way for them to communicate with us and show us how to break free from our bonds the the 3rd dimension and learn how to time travel (the 4th dimension). This would be the next step to travelling between probabilities in the 5th dimension!

i love looking at my hands and arms! my arms always look 3 feet longer with 3 or 4 hands extending from my wrist. They also look rubber like and definantly have alien like texture. I have seen peoples faces completely transformed into another species with multiple eyes, mouths on their foreheads, electric multi colored eyes, and so on.
There is something very alien about dmt, but it feels very natural to me. Maybe because there is something very alien about us?

I just want to comment on my hands while tripping .
They always turn the exact same shape and colour ( yellow) when I vape.
The shape is sort of geometric panels , I could draw it relatively easy but its hard to explain.
There is also an entity I see every time I vape and his face is of the same shape and colour.
I remember the first time I vaped my hands where covered in eyes , I felt like a god!

We ARE decended from those aliens.....
Im effect we are aliens

Great Book,,,, The Cosmic Serpent........

This is a cool thread

I think that much of what we perceive on DMT is a reflection of our own minds/selves, and if we are perceiving an unconscious or dissociated aspect of ourselves, it will seem "alien" to us, because it is not something we identify with.

My first several DMT experiences, I always described them as "alien". Alien symbols, imagery, etc. Then, after 10 or 15, the visuals were basically the same, but they didn't seem alien anymore.

That said, my girlfriend would often look like an alien when we were coming down, and I really felt (and still feel, to an extent) that some aspect of her beautiful soul actually does come from another planet or dimension or both. In fact, one time she was clearly "channeling" these entities- her skin looked like a seal's skin, and it was like these different entities were temporarily able to look at me through her eyes.

Such a beautiful experience.