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Eliyahu
#1 Posted : 5/15/2012 9:13:14 AM
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(Warning: this subject matter is a little spooky and possibly disturbing to some people.)


I would like to share with you my personal perspective on "ghosts" based upon my personal experience...

of course you don't have to agree with my viewpoint or anything but I hope that at least you will find my accounts of paranormal activity to be interesting on some level.

Over the years I have had several psychedelic experiences that have involved communicating with various spirits...

..several entities I have encountered seemed to me at least to be the disembodied spirits of Dead People.

From my observation there are two classifications I have noticed that exist of these types of disembodied spirits.

Many times I have experienced a certain style of "negative ghost" that seems like some type of dark entity similar so what you might see in horror film..From what I have gathered these disembodied spirits are generally reclusive and dormant but can become aggressive if agitated or disturbed..

These "negative" types of disembodied spirits are often bitter about the circumstances of their own demise. It seems to me that they have refused to move on and die naturally. They will not embrace the light so to speak. The result is that they are stuck here on earth and they become confused sometimes to the point where they believe they are still living.

From what I have seen they also tend become bound with other non-human dark entities that seem to regulate them and keep them trapped in a chaotic existence somehow.

The other "positive" type of disembodied human spirit seems to the type of soul that has moved on or graduated to "the next level" after death instead of staying behind...these entities are like highly sophisticated inorganic beings of the highest order.

I have encountered several of such (angelic-like) beings some of whom seem to be the souls of certain "famous" dead people.

Allow me to relate a few of my experiences with these two types of paranormal phenomenon.

I used to work in a "nest" full of these types of disembodied spirits in a certain large creepy old Hotel.....and yes... it was similar in some ways to the one in the movie the Shining...but it was just not that THIS old haunted Hotel was not pretty at all and was all run down and shoddy like.

This Hotel is located right off a major highway and it is speculated by many that this is a reason that it also happens to be plagued with suicide cases.

Not just a few isolated incidents either but actually an average of 10-20 cases per year, for more than 20 consecutive years ....and not normal cases but strange and bloody ones, murder/suicides, cyanide gas poisonings and other very bad incidents.

In one case I remember, this very wealthy couple checked in, ordered a bottle of cheap wine and then shot each other around midnight ..

they left a note explaining how there were about to become poor. they also left the blinds wide open on the first floor so everyone could see the mess.
..and there were some other even more heartbreaking/disturbing things that went on in this Hotel, it was sort of like Hotel Hell Alright.

Anyway, I would always feel the most terrible vibrations while I was at work..After about a month on the job a guest committed suicide in their room while I was working and I quickly realized I had landed the worst job imaginable for a shaman to have. While I am usually OK with death...these deaths left a very unsettling feeling in the atmosphere that lingered for weeks...

After a while at that job it became obvious that my my presence was not liked by the nest of "ghosts" that took residence in that hotel and I was being constantly attacked by negative energy.

Once stupidly and out of curiosity I went up to a certain floor to try and visit a room where a person had committed suicide the night prior. I wanted to see how strong the vibrations got....

And well they got very strong, much stronger than I expected as I approached "the room" and I left in a hurry. Unfortunately "something" followed me home and it took a great deal of effort to get rid of it...I believe it was not the ghost of the man who took his life that followed me but rather what ever negative non-human entity that was following him around tried to attach itself to me..)

Long story short...I quit that job.


On the more positive side of thing I had a very powerful experience a few years ago that I would also like to share to illustrate the lighter side of things...

My Grandfather's health had been in decline for years...eventually it reached a point where he could no longer function properly..In his mind he lost his dignity and so one evening he shot himself.. My Grandmother was in the next room and the whole thing was very difficult for her to deal with...my family, myself included were all also devastated by the sudden finality of this loss...

After this happened I personally wanted to know what my Grandfather's status was on the spiritual plane...I was concerned that he might have become a one of the "trapped" kind because of the circumstances of his death.

I smoked DMT and I asked a certain "ally" of mine to let me know what happened to my Grandfathers spirit when he passed?

To my complete and utter amazement this "ally spirit" brought my grandfather to me instantly..
My grandfather looked youthful like he was in his twenties... He smiled and said to me "thank you".. he then asked me if I liked his new look..

I told him I thought it was probably a refreshing change....

He told me it was...he then said he had to "go back" because "he still had a lot of work to do"
He then folded up the sleeves on his button down plaid shirt in an old fashioned way I had never seen him roll his sleeves up like this before. The "ally" entity then began to speak.

He then told me that what my Grandfather had gone through had been indescribably difficult and that time had actually frozen at the moment he pulled the trigger. That moment stretched out into an infinitely long time. He told me that the reason my grandfather succeeded in graduating to the next level of awareness was a direct result of the conversations I used to have with my grandfather..

...My grandmother was spiritually minded where as my grandfather was a man of only science and did not believe in "anything he could not see". When I grew up however I began to talk to him about DMT and "aliens" he was always very interested in any story about tripping or higher alien technology that I had to offer. Shortly before his death he told me he believed there is definitely Aliens...he said he wanted to make contact.

Anyways, I told my grandmother the story(she is cool with DMT, is too afraid to try it though at her age) she said that my Grandpa always used to wear his sleeves pushed up the way I described.....years before I was born.


























And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
 

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#2 Posted : 5/15/2012 2:44:23 PM

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Very interesting indeed. Thanks!
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#3 Posted : 5/15/2012 2:53:05 PM

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My suggestion would be, since you have been able to identify some of them as famous people, try and find out who some of the non-famous people are and do some research to see if they really existed as living people at some point. So far you have claimed with certainty to be speaking to legitimate ghosts, real aliens and the real Jesus. It may well be true that all of these things are real, and finding out the identities of some of the unknown people and finding out who they were when they were alive would certainly be a positive step in determining whether they are really ghost entities of dead people. I feel like I am always jumping on your posts, and it's nothing personal at all. You just seem to be very willing to accept subjective experience as being a definite representation of objective reality, when really it could easily just be a very complex illusion. Schizophrenics often also believe they are in contact with Jesus, or that they are possessed by Napolean Bonaparte... or any number of other things. It seems likely that at least some of these people are wrong and are in fact delusional, and there so far hasn't been any way of telling which are delusional and which are genuinely communicating with the dead or aliens (if these things are indeed possible), which is why I am always very skeptical of people claiming that these thing are fact.

You said in your post that people may not agree but you hope they will find it interesting. I found it interesting to read Smile
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#4 Posted : 5/15/2012 10:06:02 PM
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Tony....

I actually dig your skepticism...so no big deal

you inscribed the following:

"...finding out the identities of some of the unknown people and finding out who they were when they were alive would certainly be a positive step in determining whether they are really ghost entities of dead people".

that is an excellent suggestion...
The only thing is....so far at least I have not met any angelic type spirits other than my grandfather....who was not famous during their lifetime....

and the negative "ghost" type spirits are so far not cooperative in that way... They have never been willing to disclose any kind of personal information...or any information really...I have had them do nothing really besides spewing obscenities and making horrifying twisted grimaced faces at me.

While i'm sure there might be some ghosts out there that want their murders solved and so forth I have never come across anything like that yet...

I have had some experiences that made me believe that the spirits were real. I will give a few examples...

Once when I was six or seven years old.....my mother showed me how to use a Oujii board...(my childhood was different)....My mother saw no harm in it of course because she herself was a witch...so she thought of it like child's play...

Anyway....she told me that we were going to try and contact the spirit of a dead person...
I thought this was all very interesting.....and fun.
So we were using the Oujii board and it spelled out "hello" my mom said we had made contact

So I said "let's ask what it's name is." So my mom asked "what is your name 'o' spirit?"
The little pointer thing than slowly spelled out the letters "M....A...N....Y" Many......
So she said ,,,"he said his name is "Manee" I think that is an Italian name ...she said...
I thought "Gee whiz! we are talking to an Italian spirit named Manee"

Anyways years and years later I was thinking about this and a particular verse from the new testament came to mind....when Jesus is performing an exorcism....the evil spirit he is exorcising says that "my name is legion, for we are many" ........

Another time when a girl that took Ayahuasca became possessed....me an the other person trip-sitting her tried to sing to her in an effort to calm him down because she was yelling loudly and thrashing around...

We sang some Beatles songs to her...she calmed down a bit and started singing along quietly word for word with what we were singing .....I also recited the Hebrew Aleph-Bet and she followed along letter for letter with that as well. Eventually our tactic seemed to weaken the negative entity and it left.....
the thing here was....she did not know any of the Beatles songs we sang to her....
she also did not know the Hebrew Aleph-Bet yet she could follow along word for word.


Another time when I was 19 years old.....at 6:30 am on a Saturday morning while my friend and I were listening to Pink Floyd on LSD and gazing into the mirror.(the song breathe)...I encountered the spirit of Yeshua for the first time. H taught me the meaning of compassion and it was Amazing....my friend also saw him in the mirror too and he got a separate lesson out of his vision...

So during this we were interpreted by a very load knock at the door....I thought
it might be the police because the music was blasting so loud...

Anyways... My friend and I answered the door and it was this tiny little old lady and she said "Have you boys found the spirit of Jesus Christ?" We both said "yes!" at the same time and the old lady turned around and left very quickly...I think she thought we were nuts because we were all over enthusiastic with dilated pupils and such...



For me at least, those types of incidents were proof enough that it was not an illusion and not just mere coincidence.
And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
 
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^Really interesting stuff

What Beatles songs did you sing? Haha.

And that old lady story is pretty funny.
 
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#6 Posted : 5/16/2012 6:29:31 AM

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Eliyahu wrote:


So during this we were interpreted by a very load knock at the door....I thought
it might be the police because the music was blasting so loud...

Anyways... My friend and I answered the door and it was this tiny little old lady and she said "Have you boys found the spirit of Jesus Christ?" We both said "yes!" at the same time and the old lady turned around and left very quickly...I think she thought we were nuts because we were all over enthusiastic with dilated pupils and such...



For me at least, those types of incidents were proof enough that it was not an illusion and not just mere coincidence.

This is the greatest thing I've heard in some time....



I think its great your sharing these experiences. I have had some baffling encounters myself people rarely would believe but however bizarre, I can't deny them. I saw Chrishna on an LSD experience once, I think he was telling me about a spiritual battle I was somehow involved in, I'm convinced my friends saw it as well only that they shrugged it off as an illusion, that night I came to some scary realizations but I learned how to thank god and speak to him out loud.


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#7 Posted : 5/17/2012 2:38:31 AM
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ntwhtyouknw:
Yes they give you proof that only makes sense to you...they don't give you proof so you can go and prove it to everyone without a doubt...



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I sang "across the universe" and "inner light"
And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
 
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Eliyahu wrote:

ntwhtyouknw:
Yes they give you proof that only makes sense to you...they don't give you proof so you can go and prove it to everyone without a doubt...



Exactly. Once you get in touch and start to notice the signs and "coincidences", no one else but you will be able to interpret them. For such a big "impersonal" universe, its intriguing how the energy bends to us as individuals and gives such a personal experience. It can't be proven, but each one of us knows without a fraction of doubt the truth.
Well, y'know, it's like this experience that I had was like, y'know, erm, it was kind of the most profound experience I've had in me life, like
 
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#9 Posted : 5/17/2012 10:49:08 PM
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So glad you agree......

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And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
 
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#10 Posted : 5/18/2012 1:24:23 AM

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Eliyahu wrote:
SoulCrushingBass

So glad you agree......

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"where two or three are gathered in my name there I will be....in their midst"
-the big man upstairs

Shocked


Wow. I was just driving home from work trying to remember a quote. It so happened to be the quote you just used.

I was thinking of the correlation between hallucinations (hallowed lucidity), and "God", for the lack of a better word. I don't like mushies or aya alone, it last too long for my mind to wander to dark places or confusion. The shared experience is always better for me. "things" happen, and the vibe is the best. Manna, or holy sacrement, in the bible could have been mushrooms or peyote buttons.

So it could be possible then,
People gathering to share a psychedelic experience are the true church. Having a most holy experience, to witness the indescribable, feel the utmost love and nurturing, to really understand or be reminded how connected and special we truly are. (which would mean God is illegal).

Well, y'know, it's like this experience that I had was like, y'know, erm, it was kind of the most profound experience I've had in me life, like
 
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#11 Posted : 5/18/2012 9:11:47 AM

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^^^fascinating stuff. Eliyahu, not to shoot you down, but you confidently describe yourself as a "shaman", but you were unable to "exorcize" the "spirits" from the hotel you were working at. Wouldn't a competent shaman be able to do this? I'm more than a bit skeptical of people who call themselves "shamans" because basically everyone I know in person who calls themselves a "shaman" seems like a quack or very stuck up person. The people I've met who've struck me as having "shamanic" or "special" powers or whatever you want to call it - including university academics and inventors who were able to "see" in higher-dimensions and translate what they could "see" into human terms -have invariably been quite humble, since it's more like a gift from god/gods than something they do themselves. Also have known people with native american/indian blood who could sense water channels underneath the ground (based on electromagnetic properties?) but they never described themselves as "shamans". It's similar to people who describe themselves as "genius" - they're really just stuck up and not at all humble about their supposed gifts. Not to rant...

I once had a similar experience staying in a roadside hotel next to an old cemetery near the site of a very deadly battlefield - showed up at the hotel, it was completely dark and abandoned, and there was a note posted to the door telling me the key was hidden in a spot. The view out the back windows of the room was gravestones, virtually right up to the window, and I had to clear cobwebs in the bathroom and rest of the area. At this point I was exhausted and not ready to leave, so I just stayed. The atmosphere of the place was just spooky and weird, I was glad when the sun came up. Also had very weird experiences when using a Ouija bored once: I think the board just magnifies your intent, so if any "spirits" are in the vicinity they're even more drawn to you if you have the corresponding intention or "magnetism". I believe DMT may work the same way - it just magnifies your "field" or "vibratory signature" so any resonating entities - either "good" or "bad" - will pick up on you. I think this is why they say "protection" is needed for drinking ayahuasca or the like - any entities who don't have a good intention will be able to target you much easier if your "field" is enhanced with the medicine.

But that's all science fiction of course!

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#12 Posted : 5/19/2012 2:43:59 AM
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Lyserge.

Yes, that does come across as arrogant I suppose...

But I am what I am.

I did not give myself this label...I was granted the official title of "Shaman" by the higher powers that I work for....and before being promoted to my current position I held the title of Exorcist.

It may sound really, really "hubris" but I see no reason to pretend to be less than what I am just so I can come off as humble. Also I don't really care if people believe that I am an authentic Shaman or not I was just saying I am a shaman to illustrate my point about perception not to brag or anything.

I will say that even as a holder of the title of "Shaman" i'm sure there are other shamanic Masters out there in D.M.T land who are even more powerful and knowledgeable than me. No big deal.

And as far as exorcising the entire hotel goes....
You have to choose your battles my friend...I can't just go around exorcising the whole world...now can I?

Also performing an exorcism is not as easy an Keaunu Reeves makes it look in the movies and especially when you have a situation where there is a "Demonic Nest of evil entities".....
I wasn't willing to risk my life and limb to go up against that wasps nest of a haunted hotel just so I could keep a minimum wage job that was perfectly awful even without demons and ghosts becoming involved.





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Soulcrushing Bass wrote..


"Eliyahu wrote

So glad you agree......

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"where two or three are gathered in my name there I will be....in their midst"
-the big man upstairs
Shocked


Wow. I was just driving home from work trying to remember a quote. It so happened to be the quote you just used."

>>>>Yes the man upstairs definitely knows how to get ones attention

you also said
"So it could be possible then
People gathering to share a psychedelic experience are the true church."


>>>>>so this is church?Shocked

reminds me of Jimi Hendrix Idea to have an "electric church"...

Also a saying...
"The white man goes to church to speak ABOUT Jesus....the Indian goes into his tee-pee to speak TO Jesus"
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#14 Posted : 5/19/2012 3:40:34 AM

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Me and my circle always call our trips together church. My girlfriend was one of the least spiritual people you would ever meet, until she tried DMT, now she is pointing out the spiritual aspects of life to me.
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#15 Posted : 5/19/2012 6:22:08 AM
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Linguistiacal origins of the word church

In the old testament the word "church" is translated from the Hebrew word Quahal or Kahal
The literal meaning of the word "kahal" [קהל- ka-HAL] is gathering of people. It is often translated as "community" or "public"

In the new testament: Church is translated from the greek word eklisia means “called out” and is actually a combination of two Greek words “ek” meaning out and “klaeo” meaning call. Eklisia means therefore those who have been called out of the earth by God into His kingdom.
And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
 
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http://m.guardian.co.uk/...t=world&type=article

Here is an older article talking about how anointing oils could have contained cannibis.

Just like shamans have those they are going to heal to also share the ayahuasca brew.

Persecuting drug use is persecution of one selfs religion.

We are the "church underground" in a sense.
Well, y'know, it's like this experience that I had was like, y'know, erm, it was kind of the most profound experience I've had in me life, like
 
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#17 Posted : 5/19/2012 11:27:22 PM
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I do believe as well that the many references to Acacia bark in the bible are "hints" to it's DMT containing properties.

And there is this:

"A speculative hypothesis is presented according to which
the ancient Israelite religion was associated with the use
of entheogens (mind-altering plants used in sacramental
contexts). The hypothesis is based on a new look at texts
of the Old Testament pertaining to the life of Moses. The
ideas entertained here were primarily based on the fact
that in the arid areas of the Sinai peninsula and Southern
Israel there grow two plants containing the same
psychoactive molecules found in the plants from which
the powerful Amazonian hallucinogenic brew Ayahuasca
is prepared. The two plants are species of Acacia tree and
the bush Peganum harmala. The hypothesis is corroborated
by comparative experiential-phenomenological
observations, linguistic considerations, exegesis of old
Jewish texts and other ancient Mideastern traditions,
anthropological lore, and ethnobotanical data."

more....http://shamanism.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/shanon_article_moses.pdf


I would venture to say that the Rabbi Yeshua ben Yoseph most likely knew about this sacred tradition...of acacia-rue-huasca.


Once while I was on an LSD journey Yeshua showed me the most amazing lesson about Cannabis...

he showed me how he used cannabis during his time on earth:

He showed me that he used to get very profound spiritual psychedelic effects using what we would today consider to be very small amounts of THC and related canabanoids.

He would go deep into the wilderness by himself and use it to become one with everything around him in the most mystical sense.

Ultimately it seemed like he was trying to tell me less is more...and that I could get way more out of it if I treated it more like a sacrament and less like a pacifier.
And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
 
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#18 Posted : 5/24/2012 11:58:40 AM

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Eliyahu wrote:
Lyserge.

Yes, that does come across as arrogant I suppose...

But I am what I am.

Also performing an exorcism is not as easy an Keaunu Reeves makes it look in the movies and especially when you have a situation where there is a "Demonic Nest of evil entities".....
I wasn't willing to risk my life and limb to go up against that wasps nest of a haunted hotel just so I could keep a minimum wage job that was perfectly awful even without demons and ghosts becoming involved.


Ah, please disregard that post then. If you've been appointed a "shaman" (which is one degree up from "exorcist"Pleased then I guess it's accurate to call yourself a shaman. Just find many people call themselves that and seem to think they're more powerful than they are. Keep up the good work!
"...I didn't know that Cheshire cats always grinned; in fact, I didn't know that cats could grin..." - Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
 
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cool story bro...
 
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#20 Posted : 5/28/2012 2:33:11 AM
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lyserge wrote:

Ah, please disregard that post then. If you've been appointed a "shaman" (which is one degree up from "exorcist"Pleased then I guess it's accurate to call yourself a shaman. Just find many people call themselves that and seem to think they're more powerful than they are. Keep up the good work!


No worries....
>>>Thumbs up

Looks like one less person I'll have to hex!

-Only Joking of courseVery happy
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