Ok, so you can look at this thread if you want to see the stuff I took:
rue extract

I took 300mg and stuck it under my tongue and let it sit there for about 15 minutes, then I swallowed what was left in my mouth with some water.

So far I have waited 90 minutes and I feel nothing.

Should I take like 600mg and see what happens?

What would be the equivalent of 300mg in Syrian Rue seed? How many grams I mean? Maybe I should take that equivalent in seeds and see if that does anything for me?


Thoughts?

Oh wow, well i guess your lucky it wasn't active since 300mg under the tongue would be way way way too much (most use less than 40mg sublingually!)

I would eat a small bite of food to get digestion going just incase, but it sounds like its bunk stuff. Where did you get it? Did you xtract it yourself? Extracting syrian rue is really the best way to go for freebase harmalas- mucho bang for your buck and you know for certain it will work

from what i've extracted, 300mg of rue harmalas would probably be equivalent to roughly 3.5g rue. That dose for me leads to almost constant visions with eyes open and out of body experiences, but i think im more sensitive than most (plus i'm a twig)

yeah 300mg sublingual is way too much..

Are you sure your harmalas were very pure? What tek did you use?

Did you go lay down?

I would be having deep visions from 300mg sublingual.

Ok, well I used 60 grams of Rue and did Gibran's tek. I followed his tek EXACTLY. Check the thread at the top to see pics of my stuff.

I'm sure it's not "bunk", because this same shit fucked up my mushroom trip last weekend. I've done shrooms tons of times and never had this happen.

I took 250mg of this stuff, then waited 10 minutes and then took 4.5 grams of shrooms. Well, I will never, ever do that again. About 45 minutes later, I started tripping really hard, like normal....then it about 20 minutes, I was totally normal...not tripping at all....100% sure that the rue killed it bad....then about 2 hours later the trip came back, but it was no where near as intense.

That doesn't really sound right....with the doses you describe and the harmalas you took you should have had a trip well into the heart of insanity.

Can you provide any other info about your harmalas, i.e. how they taste (should be bitter) and the texture of the powder (should be quite powdery)? Also, is it possible that you're under other medication as well?

I know it's weird, that is why I posted this question...

-Yeah, they taste bitter, really horrible.
-Yes, it is definitely a powder.
-No meds at all. Hadn't eaten in 4 hours either.

Like I said, I followed Gibran's tek exactly, everything he shows in the tek happened exactly the same way for me. Plus, the shroom trip last week where the rue messed it up.

Is it possible that Rue doesn't effect everyone the same way? Maybe I just need to take more?

that is really weird. I would bet that if you did that again there would be a good chance it would just blow you away..there is no way that harmalas are going to decrease a mushroom trip. If anything it was just a fluke and the mushrooms would have done that anyway..

I just cant imagine a scenario where harmalas would make a mushroom trip weaker like that.

But considering there was no manske involved...who knows what percentage of these alkaloids are actually harmalas?

Yeah, I know it sounds crazy man, but I'm telling you that is what happened. This was 4.5 grams of a big batch that I have done numerous times. Every time from this batch it was amazing and like I said, this has never happened before.

I've done shrooms about 25 times in the past year, most of those times it was around 7 grams. The one time I decide to take some rue with it, my trip gets ruined.

I would be totally shocked if 40mg sub would do anything to me...I really would be.

I guess I can try it again and see what happens. What do you think about taking just the seeds? Is that not as strong as the extract? Would I just be wasting my time?

I'm going to do Gibran's tek on some caapi also.

ive extracted rue with gibrans and 250 was def enough to make dmt orally active.

Ah, good to know. I rescind my earlier statement

Thanks man. Yeah, I KNOW I did it right. Just thinking my body had some strange reaction to it or something.

Did you take any dmt with the extract or just harmalas? cause i usually don´t get much out of just harmalas except a small buzz.

I took just the rue, because everyone was telling me that rue/harmalas alone can be a cool experience. I honestly thought going into it that there is no way that I am going to feel anything and I was right. I have a very high tolerance for pretty much everything I have every taken. I'm not gonna give up though. I am gonna try more extract first of all. I am gonna try taken just the seeds. Then I am gonna do a caapi extraction and try that.



Oh yeah, I will be doing some dmt with the harmalas at some point. Wanted to do the rue first to see if I could "feel" it, that way I wouldn't be wasting my spice.

take more and lay down in the dark. you will

I'm gonna try taking 500mg and see what happens

Good lad

sublingual???!!

jeeze man I hope you are just super tolerant to harmalas otherwise your in for it! Bring your puke bucket and be prepared to set aside 12-24 hours at doses like that..

Well, I tried 300mg and nothing happened.

IDK man. Maybe I should do like 100mg sub and then swallow another 300-400.

I'll mess around with it and see what happens.

Just know coming off my first attempt at vaping spice and I failed miserably...so mad.

Dont get me wrong i def feel something off harmalas, i just never tried doing much with it only.

When i did my 300mg i had smoked some hash too and we were all high as hell after taking the extract.

But i never waited long enough for a trip to manifest itself since ive always took some dmt straight after.



Def gonna try a harmala only trip someday though, maybe smoke some mapacho with it or something like that.