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#1 Posted : 2/27/2012 8:01:40 PM

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I have noticed recently when smoking Changa, I kind of have a difference between the sides of my body.

For example the left side feels weaker than the right and slightly slower and clumsier than the right side. My hearing from the left side is slightly muted, it is like a having water in that ear.

Also with my eyes closed the left side of the visions seem blurred and unfocussed.

Anyone else experienced this? Or shall I go demand a brain MRI off my doctor? Confused
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#2 Posted : 2/27/2012 8:56:02 PM

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I don't have insurance so I avoid the doctor at all costs and would just wait and see if it goes away but that's me. Is it happening when you're strait too? If so I'd think about seeing a doc.
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#3 Posted : 2/27/2012 9:28:34 PM

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I haven't noticed this with DMT but when I smoke a lot of weed and meditate I can distinctly feel a "difference" in the two sides of my body and it often feels as if my consciousness? is turned toward the right side and it is very unnerving.
It feels like I am twisted inside my own body and need to get aligned, I really wish I could figure out what to do because it is quite annoying to say the least.
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#4 Posted : 2/27/2012 10:26:35 PM

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I have noticable damage on my right tympanic membrane in the ear, while it doesn't usually effect my balance, I am usually aware on a slight sensational variation between these two sides, though DMT doesn't make this uncomfortable in any way. Sometimes it increases this awareness and I am able to stretch my neck or jaw muscles to relieve some sort of built up pressure in this very area. But as far as Deemsters giving increased sensitivity to imbalances, I would advise looking into psychosomatic causes, such as variations in behavior in relation to though-patterns? Attaining a balance in lifestyle and behavior can actually bring about changes in physiological health as well. May sound a bit too new-agey or "holistic" but there is a great link between these. Try asking the changa!
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#5 Posted : 2/27/2012 10:32:24 PM


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If in doubt, don't wait. See your MD. There's very little chance it's anything serious but best to play it safe.

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#6 Posted : 2/27/2012 10:48:59 PM

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I would listen to what vardlok said. I often notice a difference of "pressure" between the two sides of my head. This is due to sinus issues. The jaw the sinus and the ears are all connected, and when there is blockage in any of those pathways you can experience a difference in pressure.

What makes you think the changa is in anywhay connected to this? Perhaps you are only able to percieve this difference when changad?
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#7 Posted : 2/27/2012 11:05:46 PM

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I don't have insurance so I avoid the doctor at all costs and would just wait and see if it goes away but that's me. Is it happening when you're strait too? If so I'd think about seeing a doc.


what kind of advice is that? u don't "avoid the doctor at all costs"

i would visit my doctor,what you mentioned isn't such a good sign...it might be nothing (most likely is nothing) but when you have symptoms like that a visit to the doctor is advised
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#9 Posted : 2/28/2012 2:42:23 AM

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Indoril_Nerevar wrote:
deeplake wrote:
I don't have insurance so I avoid the doctor at all costs and would just wait and see if it goes away but that's me. Is it happening when you're strait too? If so I'd think about seeing a doc.


what kind of advice is that? u don't "avoid the doctor at all costs"

i would visit my doctor,what you mentioned isn't such a good sign...it might be nothing (most likely is nothing) but when you have symptoms like that a visit to the doctor is advised



not all of us have the luxury of being able to go for a routine test without ending up homeless. A check up without insurance can cost 150 bucks.
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#10 Posted : 2/28/2012 11:50:18 AM

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a1pha wrote:
If in doubt, don't wait. See your MD. There's very little chance it's anything serious but best to play it safe.

Be well.



Very happy I can see how that one will go.

Doctor I notice that while under the influence of DMT my left side closed eye visions are blurry and there seems to be a difference between the two sides of my brain/body. Do you think I have a problem?

I don;t think I will get a good answer to that one.

Seriously though folks thanks for hte replies. I have no problems normally just while under the influence so to speak.

I noticed that introducing harmalas into my changa mix makes everything a little less defined and furry. Does any one else get that?

I was thinking that it is the effect of the harmalas causing the difference. It is very noticable, it is like the left eye is looking through a thin layer of water.

I will try straight freebase and see if the effects are the same. It is all very strange though!



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#11 Posted : 2/28/2012 11:54:15 AM

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deeplake wrote:
I don't have insurance so I avoid the doctor at all costs and would just wait and see if it goes away but that's me. Is it happening when you're strait too? If so I'd think about seeing a doc.


I live in Europe so I have state health care, which surprisingly enough doesn’t result in a decline towards fascism. As some sections of American culture would have people believe.

On the whole it works pretty well.

I think most people in the EU look on in disbelief at the situation in the USA, having to choose to risk your health is not a nice situation.
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#12 Posted : 2/28/2012 12:54:17 PM

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Awakened wrote:
deeplake wrote:
I don't have insurance so I avoid the doctor at all costs and would just wait and see if it goes away but that's me. Is it happening when you're strait too? If so I'd think about seeing a doc.


I live in Europe so I have state health care, which surprisingly enough doesn’t result in a decline towards fascism. As some sections of American culture would have people believe.

On the whole it works pretty well.

I think most people in the EU look on in disbelief at the situation in the USA, having to choose to risk your health is not a nice situation.


Yep, disbelief is one word for it... disgust is another. Not disgust at the American people obviously. But seriously, the richest country in the world and it is still arguing about whether to leave people dying on the streets because they have no money. It's crazy the amount of effort and propaganda that goes into convincing the American population that universal healthcare would be a bad thing, or that it somehow equates to "communism" or something.

The irony of course is that the for profit, private ownership of people's health services seems far more fascist than the alternative used by the rest of the civilized world.

If I have something that I need checked, I go to the doctor. We used to pay a standard £4 or something for any drugs we need (regardless of how many different drugs were needed, it was still £4) and that didn't apply if you were unemployed... and even that £4 charge was abolished a year or two ago. We even have adverts on TV, aimed at the older people who are reluctant to "bother" their doctors with their problems, telling them to go to their doctors at the first sign of anything. The one running on TV here just now is telling us all that if we have any blood in our poop we should get to the doctor straight away and get it checked Laughing

Anyway that's a bit of a rant. OP I don't know what I'd think about your situation, DMT produces all manner of crazy feelings so there's a strong possibility that it's just part of the experience for you and nothing to worry about. On the other hand maybe it is a medical issue. I'm no doctor but if it was happening to me and only happening when I smoked DMT I probably wouldn't bother about it too much, if it started happening when I wasn't on anything then I'd get it checked out.
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#13 Posted : 2/28/2012 7:31:36 PM

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Tell your doctor you notice it when meditating. This will allow you to infer that it might be an hallucination, or caused by relaxation of muscles that affect the sinuses. You could even say it "just happened" for no apparent reason. And yet another thing you could say is that you were smoking whatever is in your changa, sans spice. In any case, they are there to help you, so just try to be as honest as you can.

It could be nothing at all and just part of the hallucination. I've had similar effects from mushrooms with clogged sinuses. It can be strange.

I have excellent insurance, but not all of my family does. Universal health care is something the U.S. desperately needs.

 
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#14 Posted : 2/28/2012 7:43:20 PM

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Yep, disbelief is one word for it... disgust is another. Not disgust at the American people obviously. But seriously, the richest country in the world.


Hahahahaha!!! I'm sorry, I'm not laughing at the horrible med care structure in the U.S.A. It is down right disgusting.

I'm laughing at the statement you made about the U.S.A. being the richest country in the world.. Maybe you meant to say one of the poorest countries in the world.. The richest country in the world is Qatar. The U.S.A. is about 3 steps from becoming a 3rd world country and the only reason it seams "rich" is that the government bully's everyone into giving them their resources at a fraction of the value or worse, blowing the sh*t out of them if they don't comply and taking what it wants for free+ the bloodshed that goes along with it. Don't kid yourself, "AmURiKa" has got next to no natural resources left. Lots and Lots of debt but in no way, shape, or form is the U.S.A. anyway near to being the richest country in the world.

This is in no way a hate rant towards the U.S.A. it is more of a message to wake up and open your eyes if you still think the U.S.A. is the biggest bestest richest country in the whole wide universe.

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Hahahahaha!!! I'm sorry, I'm not laughing at the horrible med care structure in the U.S.A. It is down right disgusting.

I'm laughing at the statement you made about the U.S.A. being the richest country in the world.. Maybe you meant to say one of the poorest countries in the world...


I agree it is a few steps from being a third world country... but those steps are in the future and I was referring to right now. I agree it steals the resources of the rest of the world and that it has not that much natural resources of it's own (although they have a lot of natural gas, which is a whole other mess of a conversation) but again that is just a matter of perspective, it may be wrong how they are acquiring the wealth but they are acquiring it nonetheless. I guess it depends how you define "rich" but in terms of GDP, in terms of spending, in terms of amount of billionaires living there and of course in terms of military prowess, they are at this point the richest and most powerful country in the world, the only superpower... of course that could completely change and it could deteriorate into chaos, and I wouldn't want to be there if it did since everyone and their grannies are armed to the teeth, lol.
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#16 Posted : 2/29/2012 1:41:52 AM

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PhOG wrote:
Coastal_Shaman wrote:


Hahahahaha!!! I'm sorry, I'm not laughing at the horrible med care structure in the U.S.A. It is down right disgusting.

I'm laughing at the statement you made about the U.S.A. being the richest country in the world.. Maybe you meant to say one of the poorest countries in the world...


I agree it is a few steps from being a third world country... but those steps are in the future and I was referring to right now. I agree it steals the resources of the rest of the world and that it has not that much natural resources of it's own (although they have a lot of natural gas, which is a whole other mess of a conversation) but again that is just a matter of perspective, it may be wrong how they are acquiring the wealth but they are acquiring it nonetheless. I guess it depends how you define "rich" but in terms of GDP, in terms of spending, in terms of amount of billionaires living there and of course in terms of military prowess, they are at this point the richest and most powerful country in the world, the only superpower... of course that could completely change and it could deteriorate into chaos, and I wouldn't want to be there if it did since everyone and their grannies are armed to the teeth, lol.


Yep, I wasn't harpin on you alone Phog, I just hate that mentality and I see a lot of people thinking and voicing their beliefs that the U.S. is the end all be all.. Btw, China's Military makes the US forces look like a joke. They have more soldiers than the US has citizens if I'm not mistaken.. Just a thought.
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Yep, I wasn't harpin on you alone Phog, I just hate that mentality and I see a lot of people thinking and voicing their beliefs that the U.S. is the end all be all.. Btw, China's Military makes the US forces look like a joke. They have more soldiers than the US has citizens if I'm not mistaken.. Just a thought.


You are wildly mistaken about the size of the Chinese military, a quick look for the truth of it would have been a good idea before making statements like that Razz

American military: 1.4m active and 1.5m reserve = ~2.9 million
Chinese military: 2.2m active and 800k reserve = ~3 million
American population: 311 million

The Chinese military is less than one hundredth of the size you are saying it is. I do get what you are saying though. A lot of people think America rules the world, and to an extent at this point it does, but it is all balanced on a ball hair.

Sorry to derail this thread a bit.
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#19 Posted : 2/29/2012 7:36:30 PM

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proto-pax wrote:
Indoril_Nerevar wrote:
deeplake wrote:
I don't have insurance so I avoid the doctor at all costs and would just wait and see if it goes away but that's me. Is it happening when you're strait too? If so I'd think about seeing a doc.


what kind of advice is that? u don't "avoid the doctor at all costs"

i would visit my doctor,what you mentioned isn't such a good sign...it might be nothing (most likely is nothing) but when you have symptoms like that a visit to the doctor is advised



not all of us have the luxury of being able to go for a routine test without ending up homeless. A check up without insurance can cost 150 bucks.


the beauty of capitalism Razz

but even if that's the case you still can't tell someone looking for advice "avoid the doctor at all costs"
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Indoril_Nerevar wrote:
proto-pax wrote:
Indoril_Nerevar wrote:
deeplake wrote:
I don't have insurance so I avoid the doctor at all costs and would just wait and see if it goes away but that's me. Is it happening when you're strait too? If so I'd think about seeing a doc.


what kind of advice is that? u don't "avoid the doctor at all costs"

i would visit my doctor,what you mentioned isn't such a good sign...it might be nothing (most likely is nothing) but when you have symptoms like that a visit to the doctor is advised



not all of us have the luxury of being able to go for a routine test without ending up homeless. A check up without insurance can cost 150 bucks.


the beauty of capitalism Razz

but even if that's the case you still can't tell someone looking for advice "avoid the doctor at all costs"


No one gave that advice. You are misrepresenting what deeplake said.
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